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  1. FriendlyFire is offline

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     Style: Boxing/MMA (Ex. Shotokan)

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    Working out when soar

    No, not over training by hitting the gym every day. Today I played paintball for quite a few hours, leaving me soar. Mostly my legs from squatting, kneeling, sprinting constantly. Still, I went and worked out anyway because I won't have a reasonable chance to work out tomorrow. My squats suffered from it obviously. I also practice karate and play tennis along with paintball, so as much as I work to avoid it, I have to make the choice to work out when I am soar or skip. I am 95% sure it is better to just suck it up and lift anyway then to skip, but my question is how much of a detriment is it to your size/strength gaining? Is it only minor because your still working your muscles hard and as long as you let them recover after they will grow, or are you doing little more then maintenance lifting.

    What say you, bullshido.
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    2/01/2009 12:53am


     Style: MT, Judo & BJJ

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    ^ Soar


    Edit: I won't be a total douche and not leave actual input. Overworking your muscles can hamper their growth, yes. I doubt you're working them hard enough in paintball to cause any serious problems though, Unless you do some crazy **** whilst paint balling.
    Last edited by marcusdbrutus; 2/01/2009 12:57am at .
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    2/02/2009 3:53am


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    Its going to be hard to make gains when your doing so much cardio type activities.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyFire
    No, not over training by hitting the gym every day. Today I played paintball for quite a few hours, leaving me soar. Mostly my legs from squatting, kneeling, sprinting constantly. Still, I went and worked out anyway because I won't have a reasonable chance to work out tomorrow. My squats suffered from it obviously. I also practice karate and play tennis along with paintball, so as much as I work to avoid it, I have to make the choice to work out when I am soar or skip. I am 95% sure it is better to just suck it up and lift anyway then to skip, but my question is how much of a detriment is it to your size/strength gaining? Is it only minor because your still working your muscles hard and as long as you let them recover after they will grow, or are you doing little more then maintenance lifting.

    What say you, bullshido.
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    2/02/2009 8:07am


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    FriendlyFire doing too much is the number one thing to kill peoples gains in the gym.

    Portillo you are inccorect. GPP is essential to increase work capacity, it is especially essential for "hardgainers". That said some activities, i.e. prolonged cardio, will damage results.
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    Posted On:
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    If it's sore, I don't work it that day.

    I have the back pain to prove I learned that the hard way.
    And lo, Kano looked down upon the field and saw the multitudes. Amongst them were the disciples of Uesheba who were greatly vexed at his sayings. And Kano spake: "Do not be concerned with the mote in thy neighbor's eye, when verily thou hast a massive stick in thine ass".

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    But theres different degrees of sore, should you not train unless the soreness is absolutely gone? Or maybe you can just go on feel, and listening to your body.
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    2/04/2009 6:23am

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    I find that potassium and vitamin B suppliments seem to help get rid of DOMS faster. Of course resting is still required when your body's telling you to give it a break to recover.
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    Posted On:
    2/04/2009 9:39am


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    Training sore consistently is probably a problem. I guess I should say intense training. Once in a while is not a bad thing, especially if you know you won't be able to get to the gym for a few days ( forced recovery ). Plus training sore, if not too intensely, can actually help get rid of the DOMS, with increased blood flow.

    Be careful, when working out sore, though, it can mask real pain, ie. injury. I'd mainly do light work and stretching........
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    2/04/2009 4:48pm


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    Dumb question no once else has asked:

    How long have you been lifting consistently and how old are you?

    If you are new to lifting, regardless of age, you are going to be really sore for the first few weeks no matter what you do. A long layoff will result in something similar. Other activities (like Paintball) will be largely irrelevant to the degree of soreness compared to getting under a bell for the first time. As you get older, this effect is intensified.

    If you are new to lifting / long layoff, its a hard balance between sucking it up through the tail end of the soreness vs. waiting for any trace to disappear. Don't work out if its absolutely raging unless its part of an organized event. In which case, you pretty much have to follow the program to be part of it unless its a serious injury.

    Stretching immediately after lifting and having a post workout recovery drink with quality protein, creatine and some vitamins will help tremendously, as will foam roller work.
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