Thread: What happened to submissions...
2/11/2009 9:18am, #51
Originally Posted by PimpDawg
- Join Date
- Jun 2004
- Judo, Hung Family Boxing
i almost never see standups in these circumstances. the refs know to look for these things.
when i DO see standups (and i'm very glad there ARE standups in these cases) are when someone (usually a wrestler) takes someone down and pins them, NOT seeking to improve position, submit, or land effective strikes.
in such a case, do you REALLY want to watch them pin someone for 15 minutes? it's boring and is against the principles of the sport. if douchebags like that didn't exist, there would be no need for standups. unfortunately they do exist.
so.... standups are needed. as for rounds, that's a more complex issue, but between 2 equally skilled fighters, the rounds make it a better test of overall skill, sort of like having a best of 3 scenario (it's pretty rare to get lucky 2 out of 3 times.)"Face punches are an essential character building part of a martial art. You don't truly love your children unless you allow them to get punched in the face." - chi-conspiricy
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2/11/2009 10:06am, #52
Artemis BJJ | Brazilian Jiu Jitsu in BristolOriginally Posted by UpaLumpa
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- Dec 2011
- Bristol, UK
Don't know if this will paste right:
event date ko sub dec
94 1/31/2009 2 0 8
93 1/17/2009 6 1 3
92 12/27/2008 8 0 2
2/11/2009 6:19pm, #53
Very interesting for me that this thread is in existance now. I just watched UFC unleashed on Spike TV last weekend and watched, in 2 different matches, the fighters were stood up a couple of times because the grappler stalled in guard. Eventually the striker won in KO. I assume this is something new? I remember UFC 1 and UFC 2 where the ground game went on forever. I do see why the general populus would prefer KOs and smackdowns over 20 minute chess matches on the ground, however scientific it may be.
Last edited by Urban Achiever; 2/11/2009 6:20pm at . Reason: grammar.
2/11/2009 9:34pm, #54
Originally Posted by Sirus
- Join Date
- Apr 2008
- BJJ, Judo
My perfect organization would have no rounds, no standups, and a uniform resembling street clothes. Like sambo kurtkas with short sleeves. I would leave out soccer kicks and stomps to the head of a down oponent because that's just wrong. I'm not sure what I would do with Royce-style heels to the kidneys. I wouldn't want fightesr to pee red for no good reason. That just seems like uneccessary punishment to me with no gain in advantage for the person kicking.
Also, I'd make the whole cage sway back and forth, held up by a rope. Lava would have to come into play somehow.