Worth noting that 'the Gracies' covers a huge and diverse group of people, with a range of teaching styles, some of which have a very high regard for judo (e.g., one of my old instructors, Roger Gracie, who has been training with Ray Stevens for a long time, and indeed awarded Stevens a black belt in BJJ). In the context of this thread, it is more specifically the Gracie Academy in Torrance.
Originally Posted by judoka_uk
I did a bit of looking while writing my history piece, especially as it isn't just the size difference between Kimura and Helio which is suspicious, but the alleged discrepancy between Carlos and Helio (in fact, judging by photos, Carlos may well have been smaller). This is what I've got so far:
Originally Posted by Fitz
Originally Posted by me