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  1. Urban Achiever is offline
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    Posted On:
    1/23/2009 6:11pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    It will be MMA. I already know some TKD schools that are starting to offer "MMA". They are just TKD teachers. Only one decided to compete in a MMA competition and lost to a 19 year old in under a minute.
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    1/23/2009 6:14pm


     Style: Rising Phoenix Boxing

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Kapu Kuialua would be a fun one to see translated to the mcdojo universe . . . and it has that island exotic appeal.
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    1/23/2009 7:04pm


     Style: TKD, MT, KEMPO

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    MMA is the easiest- easier than BJJ. After all, how do you define it? All the TKD guys will say- "Look Anderson Silva, EL Guapo and so-on started in TKD, therefore TKD is a great base for MMA..." In other words, there is always wiggle room. It's actually pretty easy to discredit a BJJ phoney, it's still pretty new. As far as just making money, it's already started in BJJ.
    "Coffee is for Closers" GlenGarry Glenross
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    1/24/2009 10:40am

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     Style: kyokushin

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    IMO striking arts are more vulnerable to MC Dojo and bullshido than grappling. It comes more natural to water down a striking art, i.e. making a class only of punches and kicks in the air, dead patterns and eventually light or no sparring. Mc Dojo victims are people that wanna believe and want to be lied, however in a somewhat "polite", credible manner.

    Considering that, I think bullshido-striking adreses better those "needs of the customer",for people who wanna do forms, LARP, never sweat or get hurt but still feel "martial" about themselves. With grappling it's a bit more difficult. Its harder to do "grappling forms" and delude yourself that it coud work in a fight (unless you really want it bad). It involves getting more "intimate" with your opponent, and people who don't wanna sweat, usually don't want that. You can do a bullshido-martial striking art and never have to touch anybody, but I think it's harder in a grappling art no matter how imaginative the Mc Sensei would be.

    Last but no least, one of the standard marketing strategies for MC Dojo is to promise a quick method to self-defence proficiency. Their target are people who know little about martial arts, usually what they've heard around or seen in the movies. And I think that although the MMA has done a great job in opening eyes about what a real fight looks like, for the average Joe the image of a "real" martial artist is that of a striker ( don't know about the USA, but at least here where I live).

    So I think grappling is more protected from MC Dojo, however I think there's an exception. A BJJ school which practice no throws and teaches bad submissions techniques (that a noob wouldn't notice anyhow) could be a good ideea of MC Dojo bussiness.
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    Posted On:
    1/24/2009 10:47am


     Style: Gym drifter

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    Ok, but if you wach Gracie insider youtube channel you'd see some verry odd videos, like the one where a bunch of TKD guys are saying gJJ isnt a sport and it's ment for SD and stuff like that there, also I'm losing sight of the Gracie name competing. They are still awesome, but they're slippiung. Also I saw a big belt seremony, wich I've herd doesnt happen in a lot of bjj schools, but it's the Gracies, so there is low probability of MCDOJOISM.
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    1/24/2009 11:45am


     Style: FMA, MT & BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Siniq
    ...but it's the Gracies, so there is low probability of MCDOJOISM.
    Actually...
    There's a low-to-no probability of bullshido. McDojoism...seems to be well underway with some of the Gracies.
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