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  1. Punisher is offline
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    Entire Five Animal Kenpo System now on Youtube

    Hey All,

    For better or for worse, my kenpo instructor and founder of the Five Animal Kenpo system, Trevor Haines, just put all 144 of our self-defense techniques on Youtube.

    I'm curious of what the fellow kenpoka of bullshido think of them.

    Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/trevorhaines
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    1/11/2009 1:36am

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     Style: FMA, dumbek, Indian clubs

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    pretty standard kempo looking stuff, insert standard rants about aliveness etc. I still enjoy watching kempo demos, though. A couple things:
    someone will comment about the mount escape at 25 seconds and shoot defense at 45:
    YouTube - 05. Five Animal Kenpo Intermediate Techniques
    a stick defense with five kicks seems screwy to me (very first one) and its an odd kempo peculiarity to train against fencing style stick thrusts to the body:
    YouTube - 11. Five Animal Kenpo Weapon Defense Techniques
    I liked the emphasis of someone grabbing the staff and the short thrust counters in this one (but watching DBMA staff material makes me rethink short prodding motions with the staff):
    YouTube - 15. Five Animal Kenpo Staff Techniques
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher
    Hey All,

    For better or for worse, my kenpo instructor and founder of the Five Animal Kenpo system, Trevor Haines, just put all 144 of our self-defense techniques on Youtube.

    I'm curious of what the fellow kenpoka of bullshido think of them.

    Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/trevorhaines
    I'm not Kenpoist, but here's my $.02.

    As Meex put it, Parker had to leave Hawaii because there he was just another guy. He developed a very different approach than the rest of the Mitose/Chow lineage schools. I'd make fun of Kenpo, but for the really good guys I see in Salt Lake City and Logan (typical, the Bobbie Lawrence Kiddie Karate **** and W/C goes on and on while the good school here died, but they were, until last year, combining AK and hard sparring with gear with submission ground and if it wasn't for all those "Monkey Picking Peach" endless sd drills they'd spend time on, they would have been great for me).

    In general, some Kajukenbo schools look kinda like this when drilling sd, but they sometimes teach the techniques to be applied improvisationally; a more free response application. And in general, the Hawaiian Kempo schools that I've worked out in or seen tend to not spend much time on sd drills like these Kenpo ones; more time is spent boxing, kick boxing, grappling drills, bag and pad drills and such.
    "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
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     Style: FMA, dumbek, Indian clubs

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    I'd make fun of kempo too, but I sparred Clyde once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodosDePiedra
    I'd make fun of kempo too, but I sparred Clyde once.
    Well, you can still make fun of the Castle of Grayskull in front of which they're demonstrating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivington
    Well, you can still make fun of the Castle of Grayskull in front of which they're demonstrating.
    I HAVE THE POWER to do that.
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    I trained with Trevor Haines for 10 years. I have since come to realize the silliness of techniques and Katas and have since practiced MMA, Muay Thai and BJJ.

    Trevor is a great guy, smart, athletic and a real credit to the community. He has really attempted to simplify and make Kenpo functional unfortunately he has stuck with techniques katas and sets. I don't blame him, he is working from his perspective and has seen no need to change since what he is doing is better than what he was doing (Parkers Kenpo) and he has found success and satisfaction creating his own methods.

    Trevor offers great philosophy and a good family atmosphere. He is a student of traditional arts and is an accomplished fencer. I would loved to have seen what Trevor could have done in BJJ or Muay Thai, I guess it is one of the millions of tragedies as a result of Bullshido being spread throughout the world.

    Great guy, awesome family man and a damned hard worker.
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    Posted On:
    9/17/2009 11:29am

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    They look better then most Kenpo videos that I have seen. At least they make (some) contact.

    Also, those mount escapes will not work on any grappler who has more then a months worth of training (and that is a conservative estimate).
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    Posted On:
    9/17/2009 11:37am


     Style: Kickboxing / MMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivestar View Post
    They look better then most Kenpo videos that I have seen. At least they make (some) contact.

    Also, those mount escapes will not work on any grappler who has more then a months worth of training (and that is a conservative estimate).
    Trevor's assessment of the ground game is very weak. He does not grapple and claims to not like it. I need not say on this forum what a huge mistake that is.

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