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  1. CharlesTC is offline
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    Need some educating on "Fitness Terminology"

    Bullshido Gods smite me where I stand if this has been posted before;

    I need some help on some general terminology in the world of fitness - primarily in the weight lifting area. I have one specific question that I will ask by explaining the situation.

    I am doing the bench press and I begin to get very worn out, as I am driving up it feels like I am pushing as hard as I can but instead of driving the weights up like it once was, it is now only enough to keep the weights from falling back down on my chest (I had an experience spotter with me so the safety of the workout was not a concern).

    Is that what is being referred to when people talk about pushing past Muscle Fatigue? If not, is there a specific term for that situation?

    I have just recently began weight training with a friend of mine - whom I forgot to ask so I am trusting that you fine folks will be able to help me out. (Granted I wouldn't have to be concerned with getting flamed if I asked the friend of mine, but oh wells!)

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    That's commonly know as muscle failure. I think fatigue describes something else or they could be interchangable.
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    That's failure. Pushing past muscle fatigue I imagine would be the notion of doing something even when exhausted. Failure is the sign that it takes more than effort to complete the lift, and no degree of effort will accomplish the repitition.
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    Is that a bad thing to have happen?

    Or is that just a sign that I have reached my limit until I build my muscle up more?
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    Depends what you want to do. For bodybuilding it's a very good thing. Bodybuilders love the pump, the burn, and the high you get from going to failure. For strength training...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky Fried Chokin
    Depends what you want to do. For bodybuilding it's a very good thing. Bodybuilders love the pump, the burn, and the high you get from going to failure. For strength training...
    For strength training...?
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    Oh, alright.

    Thanks guys!

    I think I am going to enjoy attempting to build muscle! :D I just hope I am doing it right!
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    Read up on it and even enlist the help of professionals.

    The last thing you want to do is lift wrong and **** yourself up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asriel
    Read up on it and even enlist the help of professionals.

    The last thing you want to do is lift wrong and **** yourself up.
    Agreed, I am most paranoid about lifs like the Deadlift or Squats, basically anything that requires my back to be in very good posture.

    I know I can do it, but I pretty much need someone there with me when I do it(at least for now) to keep my posture in check if/when I start to deviate from that posture.
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