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    I have a godawful time trying to make my point via full web browser! Takes me 10 minutes to type a simple-ass statement or two from my iPen0r.

    Emevas, I mean its more psychological than anything else, at the snatch-phase where the bar/weight is floating and I'm moving under it or hipping-into it or whatever is where I get a feel that is the most like executing a throw. At a critical point, to throw someone you need to get-under/kip-thru/push&pull etc. Not just hang on and return the weight to rack; so my use of fast-twitch was incorrect, maybe just quicker and more complicated motions.

    I wouldnt advocate eliminating deadlifts in favor of an Olympic routine at all. Mostly its from my original Russian sambo Coach who was picked as a competitive powerlifter that I get my preferences. The more complicated movements are part of the training as it gets closer to not just the muscles used but also the neural pathways and building upon that coordination.

    Also there's a fear aspect to flinging so much weight around that I just don't get from alot of exercises and I find it particularly useful for my training. If anything, the Crossfit group I'm working with suits my purposes very well so I think it can depend much on the individuals goals and desires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Grinch
    You can't look at Crossfit as simply an exercise program. It's more of an exercise-based sport in itself. It's accessible to just about anyone, unlike olympic-level strength training programs, and it's doable with a minimal amount of equipment.

    It's not just a means to an end.
    ^^^ This. This is something a lot of critics seem to miss when they bag on Crossfit. But to be fair, a lot of crossfitters also miss this and think what they do is the best training methodology ever invented for every type of sports ever :-/
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Other Other Santa
    I have a godawful time trying to make my point via full web browser! Takes me 10 minutes to type a simple-ass statement or two from my iPen0r.

    Emevas, I mean its more psychological than anything else, at the snatch-phase where the bar/weight is floating and I'm moving under it or hipping-into it or whatever is where I get a feel that is the most like executing a throw. At a critical point, to throw someone you need to get-under/kip-thru/push&pull etc. Not just hang on and return the weight to rack; so my use of fast-twitch was incorrect, maybe just quicker and more complicated motions.
    I honestly think sandbag training would be much better for this. You might wanna look it up. I think you'd get a real kick out of it.


    Macho: I rarely ever hear people say they train Crossfit for the sake of training Crossfit. If this is the new revolution in thought, I support it, but until then, as long as people are out there saying it trains you to be able to do anything, I'll be here, haha.
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    a trainer friend swears by the sandbag, I really ought to pull that duffel bag off the shelf...

    My other issue is simple motivation: if I have a class to go to, I will give it my all. But trying to workout on my own is difficult as there's so much **** to deal with...
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    If you aren:t involved in any other sport and don;t have any other goals, Crossfit is a decent goal-oriented way to keep in shape.

    If you are involved in any other sport or have any kind of fitness goals, crossfit is suboptimal for your purposes.
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    I don't have much to add regarding CrossFit, but about this...

    Quote Originally Posted by H TO THE IZZO
    I don't think I've ever done a program that does include testing for structural-balance issues.
    I strongly recommend Gray Cook's Athletic Body in Balance to pretty much everyone. It provides self-diagnostics and correctives, plus specific guidelines tailored to various sport specific movement patterns.
    “Most people do not do, but take refuge in theory and talk, thinking that they will become good in this way” -- Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics, II.4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Skellington
    I strongly recommend Gray Cook's Athletic Body in Balance to pretty much everyone. It provides self-diagnostics and correctives, plus specific guidelines tailored to various sport specific movement patterns.
    *makes note*

    That's three Human Kinetics books (and counting) to spend the Christmas money from my folks on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Cephalopod
    If you aren:t involved in any other sport and don;t have any other goals, Crossfit is a decent goal-oriented way to keep in shape.

    If you are involved in any other sport or have any kind of fitness goals, crossfit is suboptimal for your purposes.
    so, given that I'm 41, don't have time to train outside of scheduled classes and I'm not much of a fitness buff anyhow, I'm not sure there's a better routine for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Cephalopod
    If you aren:t involved in any other sport and don;t have any other goals, Crossfit is a decent goal-oriented way to keep in shape.

    If you are involved in any other sport or have any kind of fitness goals, crossfit is suboptimal for your purposes.
    Depends. The last jits school I went to had a 30-minute conditioning class three times a week that was based in great part by crossfit. Crossfit by itself or something based from it can be use as an add-on (not a replacement) to conditioning.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

    t-nation - Dissecting the deadlift. Anatomy and Muscle Balancing Videos.

    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh El Macho
    Depends. The last jits school I went to had a 30-minute conditioning class three times a week that was based in great part by crossfit. Crossfit by itself or something based from it can be use as an add-on (not a replacement) to conditioning.

    The keyword he was using though was "sub-optimal". It can do the job, yes, but the question is, is it in fact the best answer? The comes to the debate of specificity and structure of a training system.
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