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  1. hapkido_keith is offline
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    Question about pump shotguns

    I recently purchased a 12 gauge pump shotgun, which I was told has a 5 round internal magazine capacity. I bought some ammo today and I wanted to cycle a few rounds through it to make sure there were no problems with the action before I take it to the range, and I discovered that I could only fit 2 rounds into the magazine. Upon consulting the owner's manual, it was confirmed that the magazine SHOULD only hold two rounds. This seemed strange to me as outward appearance of the weapon is of consistent size to hold at least 5 rounds. I disassembled the magazine and found a gray plastic insert that seems to have no mechanical value other than to limit the number of rounds that can be inserted into the weapon. I reassembled the magazine without this insert and lo and behold, it holds 5 rounds.

    My question is: is this insert important? If I operate my weapon without it, am I risking overstressing the magazine spring and damaging it? Item in question shown here:

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    Keith,
    You will not experience any mechanical problems from removing the plug. However, there may be a legal issue. Are you using this for hunting? In Texas, it is illegal for your shotgun to hold more than 3 shells total. Removing the magazine "plug" will get you in pretty big trouble. I would check the laws in your area. The plug can be removed from pretty much any shotgun to hold 2 additional shells in the magazine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ags1999
    Keith,
    You will not experience any mechanical problems from removing the plug. However, there may be a legal issue. Are you using this for hunting? In Texas, it is illegal for your shotgun to hold more than 3 shells total. Removing the magazine "plug" will get you in pretty big trouble. I would check the laws in your area. The plug can be removed from pretty much any shotgun to hold 2 additional shells in the magazine.
    Thanks for the info. The shotgun is intended for home defence and extra firepower in the event of a possible zombie apocolypse. I don't know about local laws here off the top of my head, but I can't imagine California having less restricive gun laws than Texas. Sounds like I should probably keep it in place for now, but it's good to know that there's no mechanical problems with removing it and it only takes a few minutes to do so.
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    my old remington 870 and winchester 1300 came with one of those, as did an old roommate's mossberg 500. it's a hunting precaution the factory takes. go ahead and remove it for the comming zombie apocolypse.
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    No problem...can never be too careful when dealing with zombies :-)

    Until you know for sure, I would just always make sure you have it in when you take it out of the house/travel, etc. Heck, you could probably just check with the shooting range.
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    I was going to say it was some evil part of the Obama Arms Limitation Plan . . . but checking with your shooting range works too.
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    My mossberg 500 came with a wee little bitty dowel that fullfilled the same purpose, I believe its for when your hunting water fowl in which situation you are only allowed one in the chamber and two in the tube...
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    My Mossberg 500 also came with the dowel. Here in Nevada, that's only legally required to be there if you're hunting birds, according to the gunsmith.

    Who knows what the deal would be with Californiay. Better ask someone who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joz
    My mossberg 500 came with a wee little bitty dowel that fullfilled the same purpose, I believe its for when your hunting water fowl in which situation you are only allowed one in the chamber and two in the tube...
    This guy is right. Unless you plan on hunting doves (or some other fowl. not sure which), then take it out.


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    That looks like one of those Charles Daley "Field Tactical" 12-gauges. They're not bad---considering when they were popular, they were selling for right around $145.00.
    I've still got one and it works great to this day. Not a bad "zombie" 12 gauge, Sir.
    I certainly recommend removing the plug. Don't be THAT guy who leaves it in.
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