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  1. cheesymac417 is offline

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    I can't make a Fist?

    For some reason, making a 'proper' fist with my right hand feels uncomfortable. The phalanges and knuckles of my index and middle finger come out more than those of my three lower fingers when in a fist. (If I slide a hand from the bottom most finger to the top over my fist, there is a huge elevation once I reach my middle finger.) If i apply pressure on my fist by lets say doing a knuckle pushup, I feel as if my "distal inter-phalangeal joints" (basically the first joint if you go from finger tip to the base of finger of my index and middle fingers) are being crushed. And, strangely a fist made in my left hand is fine... Maybe my fingers are just too long for my hand. Oh and thanks to anyone who cared to read my whole supplication. :mblah05:
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    Pics plz. This might be an issue of training time; how long have you been working on making a proper fist with that hand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesymac417
    For some reason, making a 'proper' fist with my right hand feels uncomfortable. The phalanges and knuckles of my index and middle finger come out more than those of my three lower fingers when in a fist.
    That's normal.
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    Thats normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesymac417
    The phalanges and knuckles of my index and middle finger come out more than those of my three lower fingers when in a fist. (If I slide a hand from the bottom most finger to the top over my fist, there is a huge elevation once I reach my middle finger.)
    Your middle and index knuckles are the two biggest & strongest, you want them to protrude so they take the full impact of the punch.

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesymac417
    If i apply pressure on my fist by lets say doing a knuckle pushup, I feel as if my "distal inter-phalangeal joints" (basically the first joint if you go from finger tip to the base of finger of my index and middle fingers) are being crushed.
    I think I know what you're talking about. If you make your fist as seen in those cheesy step-by-step instructions in some books (you know, where they begin by folding the fingers into what looks like a palm heel strike) you can wind up with a wad of flesh along the backs of your fingernails which sort-of acts as a fulcrum for compressing your fingers when you make impact. You want your fingernails underneath that wad of flesh, where your hands crease as your fold them.

    Also: IBBDTG (in before being deported to Gitmo)
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    Cheeseymac:
    Ask your coach if he/she thinks you aren't making a fist properly.
    Ask them to show you how to make a fist.

    You'll be wearing gloves to spar, looking at your striking style, and hopefully at least wraps/mitts when hitting the bags, so is the slight difference noticeable when you actually punch something?
    If so, have you broken your hands previously?
    Maybe you've had a fracture that hasn't healed properly?

    Also: even though you have a pair of hands... they don't always match!


    Quote Originally Posted by maofas
    Also: IBBDTG (in before being deported to Gitmo)
    or maybe the physical forum... the OP appears to have five fingers - index, middle, then three lower...
    Last edited by sochin101; 12/15/2008 7:11am at .
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    is this type of question gets transfered to the prison or the newbie town?
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    Quote Originally Posted by orionironman
    is this type of question gets transfered to the prison or the newbie town?
    The one the OP asked is likely to get moved to Gitmo, as are most questions that can be answered by "ask your coach", or questions that begin with "I've only been training 3 weeks, but..."

    The one you just asked is more likely to get Trollshidoed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesymac417
    For some reason, making a 'proper' fist with my right hand feels uncomfortable. The phalanges and knuckles of my index and middle finger come out more than those of my three lower fingers when in a fist. (If I slide a hand from the bottom most finger to the top over my fist, there is a huge elevation once I reach my middle finger.) If i apply pressure on my fist by lets say doing a knuckle pushup, I feel as if my "distal inter-phalangeal joints" (basically the first joint if you go from finger tip to the base of finger of my index and middle fingers) are being crushed. And, strangely a fist made in my left hand is fine... Maybe my fingers are just too long for my hand. Oh and thanks to anyone who cared to read my whole supplication. :mblah05:
    You don't really believe a normal human can align all 4 knuckles and present them as a completely even and flat surface, do you?

    Look at the following picture and observe the length of the metacarpals (the bones between your knuckles and your wrist), and the proximal/first phalanges (the first phalanges closest to the knuckles):



    You see that they are of decreasing length, from the index down to the pinky. So how on Earth can someone wonder if the index and middle knuckle stand out is beyond me.

    Also, unless you are deformed, your left hand should be the same. One possibility with your comfort with your left and discomfort with your right is that it's due to some inflexibility in your wrist and forearm muscles, and for reasons unknown (previous training, injury or whatever), your left hand seems to be better or is better conditioned than your right for making a fist.
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    Posted On:
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    I know one weird thing related to this that has happened to me from doing BJJ. I have developed a callous on my first knuckle from rolling my hands into the fabric of the gi i have also lost a little bit of flexibility in the first joints from the constant pulling on the gi and gripping fabric. This has affected how tight fist I can make on my right hand. Which is my dominant hand and hence sees the most stress in Gi BJJ. With gloves or wraps on it is not a problem but bare knuckle and doing things like knuckle push-ups my right fist isn't quite as tight anymore.

    So there are extenuating circumstances that can make this right vs left hand problem be real without having freak hands or birth defects.

    PS since this has gotten some good responses I don't feel the need to move it.
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