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    MAGPUL to give just one example.

    The day I see Hojustu Ryu top what these guys do. I'll change my opinion.
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    Frankly speaking, firearms tactics taught with a "traditional Japanese" flare belongs squarely in the realm of a game of Shadowrun, and no where else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wounded Ronin View Post
    Frankly speaking, firearms tactics taught with a "traditional Japanese" flare belongs squarely in the realm of a game of Shadowrun, and no where else.
    Not even this ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Ape View Post
    Not even this ?

    And that's what we call a PhysAd. :kermit:
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    Does the guy actually have the students wear gi's when shooting? That would seem kind of going over board if that is the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Python View Post
    Does the guy actually have the students wear gi's when shooting? That would seem kind of going over board if that is the case.
    Well they're issuing kyu and dan ranks for shooting skills and, deeply associating both Japanese old-school and western-modern social trappings such as titles like Soke, Grandmaster and Halls of fame etc.

    To summarise:
    In January of 2007, eight Las Vegas Metro firearms instructors hosted a seminar and all eight earned brown belts, including the range sergeant, Rich Fletcher.

    I have participated in this training and have been awarded a brown belt in Hojutsu. The pistol shooting tests consist of Chuck Taylor's Combat Handgun Master test.

    This quest has resulted in induction into the U.S. Martial Arts and Universal Martial Arts Halls of Fame, promotion to tenth dan and grandmaster, and being named “soke,” or founder, of the art. What this means to those of you with no traditional background is that sober, life-long grandmasters agree that shooting is a martial art, and have “blessed” it, and made it legitimate in the martial arts world.

    Before beginning training with the carbine, each student must also pass the shodan (1st dan) test with a revolver
    Emphasis mine.
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    This bit really makes be balk:
    ..//..What this means to those of you with no traditional background is that sober, life-long grandmasters agree that shooting is a martial art, and have “blessed” it, and made it legitimate in the martial arts world.
    The irony of a guy proclaiming to the world that being inducted into a hall of fame, graded to 10th dan by a circle-jerking organisation and using the term "soke" to mean founder of an art is off the chart.

    Soke doesn't mean "founder"
    You buy your way into a hall of fame
    You buy your 10th dan certificate and title of soke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Python View Post
    Does the guy actually have the students wear gi's when shooting? That would seem kind of going over board if that is the case.
    I doubt that they go to the range in Gi. But I have seen photographs of them doing disarms and other H2H in Gi. IMO if it's a modern "Gun-Fu" they should be training "as they fight". That includes street clothes and rig. Hell our police recruits have to wear duty rig and blue guns in everything except PT.

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    The word GIMMICK is stuck in my head for some reason.
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    Does their dojo have a range, or vice versa, or what?

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