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  1. Memento18poker is offline

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    i posted in the wrong place - IGNORE

    hi


    If this thread is in the wrong place i appologise.

    i've been a fan of bjj for about 2 years but only started training recently. I have only been to 5 sessions (1 hour each).

    what is the general game plan from the guard? and (in very general terms) how is this achieved? (in terms of grips, breaking opponents posture, moving hips)


    i was grappling with a guy who is bigger, stronger and a little more experienced than me, and he was constantly forcing my arms into bad positions and getting grips. I tried to pull his elbows and use my hips to get him off balance so i could maybe attempt a kimura or sweep, but he seemed too big and strong to be significantly affected by my efforts.

    My very limited technique is obviously a problem, but either way i seemed to just exhaust my legs and abs just trying to prevent him from establishing control... was i just relying on strength too much? or does grappling against big guys when on your back tire you out very quickly?

    any advice of any kind is greatly appreciated. sorry for the first post essay ;-)
    Last edited by Memento18poker; 12/12/2008 1:01pm at .
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    Posted On:
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    Just train. Specific technical advice isn't going to do much for you till you're a bit more experienced.

    Also, jnp is just about to yell at you for posting this in DHS. Try not to take it too personally.
  3. Memento18poker is offline

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    Posted On:
    12/12/2008 12:52pm

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    thanks, you're right about the training, i guess i'm jumping the gun a bit.

    where should i post this instead?


    sorry for the spamming
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    Posted On:
    12/12/2008 12:55pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memento18poker
    where should i post this instead?
    This forum is for specific technical grappling queries and discussion, more general newbie-type questions go in Guantanamo Bay.
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    Posted On:
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    ok thanks
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    Posted On:
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    As Pointy has already said, just go to training and listen to what your instructors say.

    You're going to get tapped a lot, don't take it to heart and don't treat every spar like it's a life or death fight or you'll end up injuring people.
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    Yea man you're too much of a newbie for any specific advice to really help. There isn't going to be a magic technique that makes you good from the guard (or any position). It's way more about A: finesse of the technique and getting all the details right, and B: timing.

    But yea all i'll say is work in combos. From any position, it's not "alright, try this -- ok that didn't work. alright i'll try this, nope that didn't work either". It's "go for this, ok they defended this way so i'm going to respond this way".
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    Posted On:
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    5 hours into grappling is a little early to worry about combos. Just really concentrate on the basics -- getting to and holding positions, etc. As others have said, it's too early to give you specific advice here as you're still so new to grappling that you're going to improve dramatically even in the next few months as long as you train seriously under a good coach.

    Good luck!
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    Read the stickies at the top of each forum before you post Memento18poker.

    I know that's not what people expected, but I'm having trouble posting my original post that had a link in it.
    Shut the hell up and train.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memento18poker
    hi


    If this thread is in the wrong place i appologise.

    i've been a fan of bjj for about 2 years but only started training recently. I have only been to 5 sessions (1 hour each).

    what is the general game plan from the guard? and (in very general terms) how is this achieved? (in terms of grips, breaking opponents posture, moving hips)


    i was grappling with a guy who is bigger, stronger and a little more experienced than me, and he was constantly forcing my arms into bad positions and getting grips. I tried to pull his elbows and use my hips to get him off balance so i could maybe attempt a kimura or sweep, but he seemed too big and strong to be significantly affected by my efforts.

    My very limited technique is obviously a problem, but either way i seemed to just exhaust my legs and abs just trying to prevent him from establishing control... was i just relying on strength too much? or does grappling against big guys when on your back tire you out very quickly?

    any advice of any kind is greatly appreciated. sorry for the first post essay ;-)
    Sounds to me like you're not using your testicles. You don't have any? Try growing a pair.
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