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    Moved to newbietown because no one who seriously trains would ask the internets about this.
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    Okay, champ, power is defined as the quotient (actually the derivative) of work over time, which happens to be the same thing as the product (actually the integral) of force and velocity.

    So to increase your power, you should increase your force and or your velocity, probably in that order. Improve your limit strength by training at near-maximal loads, then switch to submaximal loads to improve your peak power generation. Select exercises that have high transferability to the movements in question.

    And now I'm going to get up and take a walk so my dumb ass doesn't get banned for trolling in Newbietown.
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    I generate inner power by eating lots and lots of baked beans and eggs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Van
    Yes.. the key is to relax as much as possible while hitting a heavy bag. I recomend hitting the bag from a sitting position.. with you feet up.. and a good glass of chardoney in your hand with some cheddar slices and crackers on the table next to you.
    Now that sounds like my kinda training!

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    If you have gotten the idea of "Inner power" being used for punches from your current school, asking your coach is propably not the way to go. If that is the case, I suggest you start looking for a proper school in your area.

    Anyway, it's all in the hip. The rest just kind of follows.

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    Three ways I have been told is turning your hips/body into the strike, putting your body weight into it and also by spining. By turning your hips and holding out your punch you gain alot of speed and energy because your fist on the outside is moving faster then your body on the inside(bad wording i know but just stand in a circle hold your arms out and spin around like a helicopter and you will know what I mean). You can also put your body weight into it by stepping foward or leaning/pushing into the strike, this adds power because it adds the weight and momentum of your body coming at them. Lastly you can spin this adds power in much the same way as the first one but gaining extra energy from the spin.

    "If you have gotten the idea of "Inner power" being used for punches from your current school, asking your coach is propably not the way to go. If that is the case, I suggest you start looking for a proper school in your area."

    Just because he got the idea of inner power doesn't mean thats what he was taught and even if he was taught inner power you don't know in what context his coach was using it, it could mean anything from using your whole body to punch to using chi you don't know so i don't think its right to tell someone who seems to have little experience to leave what may be a good school based on one concept that you don't know the context for which it was used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H TO THE IZZO
    Aw, man...



    Okay, champ, power is defined as the quotient (actually the derivative) of work over time, which happens to be the same thing as the product (actually the integral) of force and velocity.

    So to increase your power, you should increase your force and or your velocity, probably in that order. Improve your limit strength by training at near-maximal loads, then switch to submaximal loads to improve your peak power generation. Select exercises that have high transferability to the movements in question.

    And now I'm going to get up and take a walk so my dumb ass doesn't get banned for trolling in Newbietown.
    That`s not trolling that`s scientifically accurate advice. What exercises have good transferability to punching. I`m thinking bench press, clean and jerk and squats but they seem only partially transferable at best

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    nice ideas

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitchslapper
    That`s not trolling that`s scientifically accurate advice. What exercises have good transferability to punching. I`m thinking bench press, clean and jerk and squats but they seem only partially transferable at best
    Well, "partial" transferability is the nature of strength training. You improve the maximal strength and speed of the muscles used in the motion as much as possible, and then you go do all that neat boxing stuff to develop coordination, speed, timing, endurance, etc.

    My personal bias would be towards unilateral work and core rotation (separately and together).

    DB bench (variations: alternate arms, Swiss ball instead of bench, incline instead of flat)
    Twisting-motion core work like this or this
    Squats or deadlifts, because they're good for you
    Some unilateral leg work (lunges, single leg squats/deadlifts, etc.)

    Power cleans would be useful for developing speed in the hips, but Rippetoe says (and I tend to agree):
    In contrast, the quick lifts cannot be done slow, and are always used to train power. They cannot be used as strength exercises, since their execution is dependent on a high bar velocity: a slow snatch will not rack; a slow clean is a deadlift.
    -Strong Enough

    And DeFranco says (and again, I tend to agree):
    The reason why Iím not a huge fan of the Olympic lifts is that they take a long time to teach. That is, if you teach them correctly. Also, most athletes are horrible at the Olympic lifts. The reason why most athletes arenít great at the Olympic lifts is usually because they arenít strong enough in the right places.
    -Ask Joe

    If you can do power cleans properly, I think they're worth doing in the power segment of a program. If you can't, though, I'm not sure it's worth the time to learn them. They're very technique-intensive.
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