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  1. patfromlogan is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Yeah you dumb ****, I was going to give you some advice, but you suck, so **** off.

    Quote Originally Posted by gunterfan3819282
    reccomend it to the rest of us.
    Yeah, I rule, dude, so tell me all about it. I'm not like that sucky OP.
    Last edited by patfromlogan; 12/09/2008 7:19pm at .
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    Posted On:
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    Ahem, to speed up jabs do "perfect" form in mirror 30 reps three times a day. Only go as fast as you can with good form. With this method it took me maybe three months to get a killer jab down.

    What really surprises me is that many people never really try to perfect techniques for their skill set. I spent a lot of time on three or four kicks and about as many strikes and that's been my bread and butter. Kaju and KK both drilled lots of jabs and that early training has nailed me many a face (or jab - left front kick - overhand right etc etc). Similarly KK used sweep/roundhouse to the front leg and often I've sparred with people who don't know these techniques so they tend to be candy - to say nothing of untrained people, and pretty much there isn't much to say because they are laying there going wtf?

    I was trained to explode on the command and even as the old fart in line drills I'm done with short combos before any of the other bbs in class (long combos they pass me by 'cause I am actually slower, I just get off on the gun quickly, so to speak). If you combine drilling speed watching yourself doing 'bursting out' with the strikes it should help. I don't know how you train, but the MT I saw had line drills in air similar to all the other arts' line drills. Some people go through the motions while others have a pool of sweat on the floor around them in a few minutes - be the guy with sweat dripping off your gi if you really want to be fast.

    Some boxing coaches use the slap hand drill where you have both hands up and opponents are on your's and you turn your hand over to hit them and if you miss it's their turn - this is a game that might help speed reflexes and if that's not clear I can go on and on...
    Last edited by patfromlogan; 12/09/2008 7:17pm at .
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoTeefa
    wow you can judge my abilities just by the fact I said I want to get my handspeed up!
    yer amazing!
    Yep, strangely enough getting a bunch of books and reading them won't increase your attack speed and stamina by 25%. I gave you legitimate advice which helped me get a very fast jab, if you can't admit that maybe just maybe your poor attack speed might be related to imperfect technique then not even your coach can help you.

    For Gunter and Fug, pretty sure i got this book because of a post on bullshido. Awesome read and really regretting loaning it to a gym mate two years back (never saw it again):

    Amazon.com: Fighting Strategies of Muay Thai: Secrets of Thailand's Boxing Camps: Mark Van Schuyver, Pedro Solana Villalobos: Books
    Fighting Strategies of Muay Thai: Secrets of Thailand's Boxing Camps by Mark Van Schuyver.

    If anyone has a 2nd hand copy they don't need i'd like to buy it off you btw, amazons doesnt ship to australia.
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     Style: Kaju, FMA, Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeopleSoft
    In the ring. Although several (elbows for ex.) are fine in the cage

    Agreed. Some of the things he talks about in the book, like the thumb slip to the eye are great for street level and not so much for ring. More of the tricks can be used for the cage as peoplesoft stated though better than beginner boxing skills are need to pull some of them off. As a side note whatever you do do not buy his other book. Kill as Catch can wrestling.

    Amazon.com: Kill-As-Catch-Can: Wrestling Skills for Streetfighting: Ned Beaumont: Books

    If I could have, I would have returned it. It was worthless to me.

    shenbitt
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon Dispenser
    Fighting Strategies of Muay Thai: Secrets of Thailand's Boxing Camps by Mark Van Schuyver.

    If anyone has a 2nd hand copy they don't need i'd like to buy it off you btw, amazons doesnt ship to australia.
    I was surfing Aussie Kyokushin sites and found posts about their three week Thai MT seminar. Sounded like a anual summer event. What a opportunity for people that are in that neck of the woods, so to speak. Thai food and get beat up, kinda like in HI Hawaiian food and get beat up in KK, or like it is here in Utah Mormon land, ice cream and get beat up.
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    Posted On:
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    If anyone wants to buy me a 1st edition autographed copy of Jack Dempsey's Championship Fighting, that would take care of one thing on my wishlist.
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

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  7. Matt Phillips is online now
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by fug
    I was surfing Aussie Kyokushin sites and found posts about their three week Thai MT seminar. Sounded like a anual summer event. What a opportunity for people that are in that neck of the woods, so to speak. Thai food and get beat up, kinda like in HI Hawaiian food and get beat up in KK, or like it is here in Utah Mormon land, ice cream and get beat up.
    Now darkness comes; you don't know if the whales are coming. - Royce Gracie


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    Posted On:
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     Style: Muay Thai, BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon Dispenser
    Yep, strangely enough getting a bunch of books and reading them won't increase your attack speed and stamina by 25%. I gave you legitimate advice which helped me get a very fast jab, if you can't admit that maybe just maybe your poor attack speed might be related to imperfect technique then not even your coach can help you.

    For Gunter and Fug, pretty sure i got this book because of a post on bullshido. Awesome read and really regretting loaning it to a gym mate two years back (never saw it again):

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/158..._encoding=UTF8
    Fighting Strategies of Muay Thai: Secrets of Thailand's Boxing Camps by Mark Van Schuyver.

    If anyone has a 2nd hand copy they don't need i'd like to buy it off you btw, amazons doesnt ship to australia.
    fair enough, that's why I'm in the gym six days a week for a few hours.
    and yes I can admit that, just not happy with the way you said it. I would probably really enjoy that book so it might be added to the wish list even though its apparently over my head.
    I have a fight at the end of January :boxing: . Its muay thai rules minus elbows, and knees to the head.
    I will work in the mirror a lot in the next few weeks. What should I be focusing on when I'm working the bags? We have a 100 lb thai heavy bag, a soccer ball sized double ender, a standard speed bad, and a tear drop shaped bag.
    Last edited by NoTeefa; 12/10/2008 3:19pm at .
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    Posted On:
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    Yeah i have a habit of saying things in the meanest way possible ;), its a gift. If you have a fight in (late?) january you are best working the same 2-4 hit combos with your trainer and doing as much light sparring as you can, all the prep work goes to **** when you get in there for the first time anyway. How long have you been training for?
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    Posted On:
    12/11/2008 11:38am

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeopleSoft
    Well excuse me, I guess I'll leave now and go hit the makiwara for a couple hours.
    "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
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