anything better than steroids? I like to make vague, open-ended questions

**Portillo** · Posted On: 12/07/2008 8:24pm

Anyone use any supplements or foods that are better than steroids? By that i mean healthy alternatives with no side effects.

**Kentucky Fried Chokin** · Posted On: 12/07/2008 8:30pm

Sure, there are plenty, but bodybuilders don't use those because they prefer having their bodies ravaged by the effects of steriods.

**Sakmongkol** · Posted On: 12/08/2008 3:10am

Cell Tech.

**codo3500** · Posted On: 12/08/2008 3:26am

There is plenty of stuff out there, but here are the basics that have actually been PROVEN to give results, unlike alot of the expensive **** out there that has little scientific evidence behind it.

Protein - don't overload it though, 40g post workout, and 40g before bed is plenty, any more will more than likely be turned into carbs, and carbs are alot cheaper to buy than protein, so its just throwing money away.

Creatine - There are lots of different kinds, some people prefer stuff like Creatine Ethyl Ester .etc, personally I have had good results using just creatine monohydrate pre-workout

L-Glutamine - This essential amino acid is one of the foundations of building muscle. It's found in protein, but especially in older guys the body can have trouble converting some of the protein to L-glutamine, so supplementing it can make sure there is plenty there when its needed.

A lot of supplements these days that are pre-workout use alot of caffeine, i've been told this doesnt work well with creatine, although I havent actually looked into it much. Personally I dont get much out of caffeine unless i take very large quantities, but the problem with caffeine is, its so common these days that people become basically immune to it, it really depends on the person as the results vary a lot.

Methoxyisoflavone is a bit of a hot topic, at least around my circles. It has been proven to have very few side effects, and to help building lean muscle. The problem is, around here at least, its not cheap, and the guys getting results are taking at least 3-4 times what is recommended on the packet. It is however something you may like to look into though, as some guys are calling it the new steroids (although personally I don't see a new steroids happening any time soon...)

**Teh El Macho** · Posted On: 12/08/2008 10:14am

Originally Posted by Portillo

Anyone use any supplements or foods that are better than steroids?

Better for what?

Originally Posted by Portillo

By that i mean healthy alternatives with no side effects.

Alternatives for what? Better for what?

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I edited the title of this thread to show and explain the reason behind my profound dislike of it.

**Tom Kagan** · Posted On: 12/08/2008 10:39am

Originally Posted by Portillo

Anyone use any supplements or foods that are better than steroids? By that i mean healthy alternatives with no side effects.

No, there isn't.

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**Lu Tze** · Posted On: 12/08/2008 10:43am

I like to use radioactive spider bites, although they're pretty addictive... miss a shot and you start climbing the walls.

Badum tish. Shoot me now, ffs.

**Pandinha** · Posted On: 12/08/2008 1:41pm

IMHO, there is nothing better for gaining strength, size, and recovery than steroids.

**Emevas** · Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:50pm

What side effects of steroids are you concerned with, and what about them is unhealthy?

**BudoMonkey** · Posted On: 12/08/2008 4:58pm

Well, anything else is much cheaper.

Otherwise, and if you don't mind lactating from your new man-boobs, steroids are the real deal. The Cat's Pajamas.