Thread: Line between Dojos and McDojos
12/04/2008 10:12am, #11
Originally Posted by Coach Josh
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12/04/2008 10:12am, #12Originally Posted by Coach Josh
case in point to get a BB in Goju-jitsu you have to take a coaching certificate program at a local community college (Going for brown you also have to do an 8 hour first aid course)
The Sensei who runs the school doesn't get any $$ for this it's just that to earn the name and the rank to teach you have to know how to coach.
Even then you're a Sempei first until you get your second degree
The problem with the western use of Sensei in many TMA bullshido schools is, it's not really earned and used by many douchebags to fluff their ego.
Because it's Japanese douches can attach extra meaning and symbolism that doesn't really exist.
Sensei, Semmpei - Coach assistant coach
It's funny if the bullshido schools had to use terms like coach and assistant coach they probably wouldn't get away wih as many inflated ranks
I can't see adults being bossed around by a teenage "coach"
Although I can't understand why people go to schools with kiddie "sensies anyways"
12/04/2008 12:43pm, #13
What people fail to comprehend is that a teacher is a really special thing. I am a teacher fully licensed and certified through the state board of education. I had 3 years experience in my field plus 4 years of college to educate me on the craft of teaching. I had to pass a battery of tests and undergo supervision and evaluations in my first few years to be a fully licensed teacher. I still have to be evaluated every couple of years. I currently have 10 years of teaching experience in a classroom. I just started being a good teacher 5 years ago.
On the flip side I have been teaching martial arts now for almost 20 years. I see why I had so much trouble in the beginning as a MA instructor. I now use a handful of methodologies to instruct MA as well as in the classroom.
The "monkey see monkey do" methodology of martial arts instruction does not come close to what a real physical education instructor must undergo to become certified. I am sorry but a semester at the community college does not equal a BS in kinesiology education. Further more the certification programs for many martial arts instructors is laughable. The more I do both, classroom instruction and MA instruction, the more I learn and grow.
I thought I was a good MA instructor and would be able to do well in the classroom. That line of thinking was just like wishing. **** in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up first. You need structure, supervision, and training to be a good instructor. This is why I loathe people who use sensei because many are not really teachers.
This another reason it is essential to belong to a real organization. Not one made up by one person and run by him but a true organization. They offer support assistance and guidance in all areas of development for your program. Just like how we demand to see your BJJ lineage people should demand to see your education credentials from MA instructors.
There is always exceptions to the rule and many people are great teachers with little training. If that is the case and if they are teaching at a school then it would behoove them further their education and become a better instructor.Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.
12/04/2008 1:28pm, #14Originally Posted by Muerteds
12/04/2008 1:48pm, #15
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12/08/2008 3:26pm, #16
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A McDojo to me is one that creates black and brown belts like burgers in McDonald.
I went to a krotty school with 11 and 12 year old brown belts, and a yellow belt kid that couldnt even punch properly because he was 3, i dont think anyone ever failed the tests and patches were given for money instead of awarded for excellence.
The trainning was all done in the air, at best it was with compliant opponents and sparring was light touch point stuff where you had to yell "KIA" to win, so most fights ended as shouting matches.
I approched my coach to teach me moves that could be actually used in fights and he told me to practice the same moves and bend my knees more while in stance, honestly i learned more from older students who cross trained.
THAT MY FRIEND IS A MCDOJO.