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    a question from an extreme noob

    I have become interested in martial arts- just as much the moving meditation aspect as the health and self defense benefits. I'm a total idiot when it comes to this stuff though. I appreciate the site, and had to ask. Is it a safe bet to assume ANY online "dojo" is b.s.? I mean, I'm green and all, but don't you have to actually spar? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iswearimaninja View Post
    I have become interested in martial arts- just as much the moving meditation aspect as the health and self defense benefits. I'm a total idiot when it comes to this stuff though. I appreciate the site, and had to ask. Is it a safe bet to assume ANY online "dojo" is b.s.? I mean, I'm green and all, but don't you have to actually spar? Thanks.
    Welcome. First off, I'd like to say that it'd be best if you had posted this in Newbietown, where you could've introduced yourself. Secondly, I'd suggest you become more familiar with the site. Lurk more, post less. Anyway, that being said, yes. To get efficient training, one must train under the supervision of an experienced practitioner. If you stick around, you'll see this site focuses more on practical martial arts that stress fighting and aliveness, in contrast to arts like aikido or modern ninjutsu.

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    Welcome to Bullshido. Find a gym, dojo, dojang, kwoon or whatever else you can find in your area. The internet is for research, pirating music and porn; you cannot learn martial arts here nor by video or written correspondence.

    The ninja thing probably won't work out in the long run. Boxing, wrestling, Judo, BJJ, MMA are all good choices IMHO, but you can build a foundation on many classical or traditional martial arts. Best wishes and good luck with your training.

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    I thought I spelled it wrong, but as I said I'm a mechanic not an English professor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iswearimaninja View Post
    I have become interested in martial arts- just as much the moving meditation aspect as the health and self defense benefits. I'm a total idiot when it comes to this stuff though. I appreciate the site, and had to ask. Is it a safe bet to assume ANY online "dojo" is b.s.? I mean, I'm green and all, but don't you have to actually spar? Thanks.
    Welcome to Bullshido.

    There is some online stuff out there put out by reputable martial artists. It doesn't change the fact that in the absence of a qualified instructor, you will commit multiple errors that you will not be able to perceive due to your lack of experience.

    So no, not all online MA programs are crap. However, as a raw beginner, nothing will replace the benefit of guided instruction. Your small errors will add up over time and cause bad habits that will have to be unlearned later.
    Shut the hell up and train.

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    Well you have to decide for yourself 1st what your actually looking for.

    If your at all interested in self defense well you need to understand the concept of aliveness


    As you can see it is rather impossible to develop the timing with out other people to work with. It is also hard to learn with out qualified in person instruction.

    List of arts that have quality control and pass the aliveness test
    most combat sports - Judo, Boxing, Wrestling, MMA, MT, ect ect.

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    Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately after so much trolling it prompted me to create an account. After doing that, I still didn't quite find what I was looking for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by iswearimaninja View Post
    Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately after so much trolling it prompted me to create an account. After doing that, I still didn't quite find what I was looking for...
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    From one of the site admins. Anyways, take out the sarcasm and it's a damn good way to point you to the art you're looking for. Before you train in anything, think about what you really want. If you want martial arts that are practical with realistic training, you're better off learning full contact karate, Muay Thai, sanshou, boxing, wrestling, judo, sambo, or Brazilian jujutsu. Not that aikido or light contact karate/TKD can't be fun; it's just that they emphasize forms and "spirituality" over practicality. Thus, you're a lot less likely to be able to defend yourself.
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    great video goodlun

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    Quote Originally Posted by iswearimaninja View Post
    I have become interested in martial arts- just as much the moving meditation aspect as the health and self defense benefits. I'm a total idiot when it comes to this stuff though. I appreciate the site, and had to ask. Is it a safe bet to assume ANY online "dojo" is b.s.? I mean, I'm green and all, but don't you have to actually spar? Thanks.
    First, welcome to bullshido! This is the right forum to point you in the direction of a martial art or combat sport that will ultimately train you to defend yourself among other things depending the way you choose to go. I looked on the internet for a couple months. The best thing I can suggest is to figure out a couple styles you are interested in, find some local gyms or dojo, and take some trial classes. Everyone is different so it's a matter of finding a place and instructor that is right for you. Good luck and welcome again!

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