Additions to MMA

**FingerorMoon?** · Posted On: 12/21/2003 10:53pm

They're too deadly.

**The Wastrel** · Posted On: 12/21/2003 10:56pm

This is actually the funny thing, right? Like, all the martial arts that failed in the early no-rules UFC can now claim that they won't do it now, because it has rules, but they would have done it back in the days when it was still legit.

9chambers · Posted On: 12/21/2003 11:23pm

I'd like to see the aforementioned: start up close with a buzzer match. Maybe just make the ring smaller instead. Also, teams. I'd like to see someone take on multiple attackers in a handicap match too. I'd like to see a no weight class option for challenge matches or something. I'd like to see a few gi matches or some sort of uniform resembling street clothes. I'd like to see some new arenas, with terrain a guy can use to his advantage. I'd also like to see weapon simulation but I doubt too many people would pay to see guys with markers chasing eachother around. Still. Also, I'd like to see some MMA guys fight some big names outside the MMA world. Also, I am looking forward to Tyson coming to NHB, not that I am saying he would win or lose, it would just be fun. That stuff would be cool.

.. also, cheerleaders.

**mikus** · Posted On: 12/22/2003 1:16am

Originally posted by BlackBeltNow
are u sure? his martial art is judo, but before he did judo he was a wrestling champ.

No. He was a Sambo world champion, and top 3 in Russia in Judo in his weight class. Sambo and Judo are so close in Russia it's ridiculous. There's not too much of a distinction. If you do one, you probably do both. Also, I don't think that he is a wrestling champion. It says that on his webpage but the translation is really horrible. I've never seen anything about him other than that which mentioned wrestling. Just judo and sambo.

**mikus** · Posted On: 12/22/2003 11:54am

I don't think that there are going to be any huge changes. It looks like more top judoka are going to enter the mma world, so I think takedowns and takedown defense will probably become more and more important. I'd like to see more top K1 people enter, as well, so standup will get better.

**PizDoff** · Posted On: 12/22/2003 3:46pm

Originally posted by MMA_Phil

I think that MMA has gone past the stage where anybody could turn up with a new style and change the NHB world (like BJJ did). It's about individuals now, and not styles. Styles are simply a personal expression of fighting. Bruce would be proud I reckon.

Damn correct!

I'd also like to see more tag team action.
I don't really like the cage.....
Sometimes too much strategy goes into pushing someone into it and GnPing them.

**MiloNYC** · Posted On: 12/22/2003 3:59pm

I think there is still a lot to be understood about MMA striking. We are seeing a lot of driving knockouts where one guy is pretty much rushing the other while simultaneously punching. You see this a lot on the street and in MMA but almost never in boxing or Muay Thai. Because of all the padding in MT and boxing I think the focus has to be to a certain extent on endurance and wearing the other guy down with strikes. With MMA it's a few very hard accurate punches, that power and accuracy with a limited number of shots on a dynamic target is something that I think there is room to train for. I think we will see more evolution in striking in the next few years than we will in grappling.

**Owen** · Posted On: 12/23/2003 7:17am

I think I see a few possible evolutionary phases in MMA right now:

Exploration of the clinch-especially closing the distance while striking/avoiding striking, like pummeling to under/overhooks or double unders

Exploration of takedowns against the cage/ring

A transition from less aggressive submission stylists to more aggressive ones like Serra, etc.

I also think you'll see a change in how the hands are traditionally held as people realize the sport is more akin to BKB than contemporary boxing.

There will be someone that effectively utilizes a teap (sp?) kick.

I think we'll also see some more complex setups for takedowns/takedown defense, too.

Just my .02

**Ronin** · Posted On: 12/23/2003 7:44am

I agree with Milo,
Striking MUST evolve to keep pace with the effectivness of grappling.
The next step will be the ability to strike from Zero distance and still cause damage.
I think the addition of gloves, in some ways, stunned the development of striking, instead of making better strikers and forcing improvement, they maintained the status quo.
Maybe we will see a resurgence of the "under valued" body shots.

As for grappling, it would be great to see some NEW technique come out of the wood work.

**J-kid** · Posted On: 12/23/2003 11:28am

Originally posted by Orion
What would you add to MMA, in terms of strikes, concepts, grappling... what will you.
I believe it's still a young sport, and ripe for improvement - so I can see new styles and techs having success in it. Still a lot will change, I believe.

I think a good Harimao fighter (Silat - grappling style) could do well on the ring. A lot of broken arms, I fear, since what I've seen of Harimao doesn't seem too easy to control (you break or not), but that would hardly be a problem.

Also, I have yet to see many Samboists enter the ring. I've seen a lot of wrestlers, and that's close, but I want to see those crazy guys pulling submissions from nowhere.

One last wet dream of yours truly - I want to see Sumokas back in MMA... with preparation, this time.

I have seen silate and it looks sort of unpractical vs someone trying to bash your skull in or hammer lock you.