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    I should also point out that the NSA provide a massive amount of academic funding for high performance computing, maths and related disciplines.

    Josh, what were your friends doing, were they working for the NSA directly, or were they on NSA funding and attached to some academic institution? 19 sounds a little young, as they generally fund postgrad and postdoc level stuff, but they do occasionally throw the undergrads a bone.

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    Now we have a large amount of discussion going on right now. Let me try and separate the current claim.

    Josh Oakley is claiming 19 year old friends, apparently working for the the NSA, proves that the CIA used 19 year old operatives back in 1970 whatever?
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    "After training with Tanaka for several years Dux was called to serve in Vietnam, and came out of the experience with a chestful of medals and a basic distrust of institutions like the military."

    Michelle Klein, "Frank Dux: The Man Behind the Legend," Inside Kung Fu Presents: Complete Guide to Ninja Training, May 1987, 48-53, at 50.

    Ms Klein was obviously hired by the CIA to discredit Hanshi Dux by making false claims about his service in Vietnam.

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    If I'm not mistaken, someone has yearbook photos of Frank that demonstrably proves he would have been too young to serve in Vietnam, AND was in fact living in the US attending a PS when he claims he was living with his adoptive Japanese mentor. Anyone else remember this?
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    Check out this link for the Bercy show:

    http://www.fasstduxryu.com/videos/index.html

    Could someone preserve this little gem for our analysis and viewing pleasure?

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    There is a picture of Frank in a Marine Uniform with the title "Graduation Day, MCRD, 1975"

    Saigon fell on April 30, 1975. Regular Marine Combat Units had not fought in Vietnam since 1971. During Operation Frequent Wind, on April 29th and 30th, Marine Units were brought back to Saigon and a few other locations to help with evacuating U.S. personal and refugees.

    Even if Frank graduated training before April 30, 1975 he would have had to have been deployed to one of a small number of regular units helping with this operation to see any sort of action in Vietnam with the Marines.

    As a reservist I doubt he would have been attached to one of these units and did not mention taking part in this operation in "The Secret Man".

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    Josh's friends wouldn't know the color of the boathouse on Fort Meade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh Oakley
    But you're right, he actually could be lieing to me. That much is entirely possible. But it'd be a damn good lie. A REALLY fucking good lie.
    Of course it's a "really fucking good lie" you damn rube. How far would you expect a con man to get if he was a bad liar?

    It's always simple to tell when someone has no idea about special operations and "secret spy ****", and is lying through their teeth, because they'll mention the NSA and CIA and not any of the other 16 US intelligence agencies. Why do they do that? Because the general public only really know about a couple of them, and you can't catch ignorant idiots with **** they haven't heard about.

    Ever hear of any one of these con men working for the ONI? Of course not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander108
    Josh's friends wouldn't know the color of the boathouse on Fort Meade.
    Meade has a boathouse?

    (I get the joke, "what color is the boathouse at Hereford?", but Meade is landlocked, and the little lake inside the fort doesnt allow boating or swimming. At least, that's what I thought.)

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    You can get away with all kinds of **** with the Admiral's daughter when the MPs aren't looking.

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