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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh El Macho
    ^^^ yep... one year short of 40. When I hit 31, it was like a train went over me. Before that, I could do retarded **** with little sleep, no supplements, not even a multivitamin and not feel much of a thing.

    Now, I need things just to be able to get a solid sleep (ZMA, Tactical Nutrition, tribulus.) When test levels go down (and which do go down), that's when supplements become vital for anyone wanting to engage in a minimum of physical activity.
    When do you take the Tribulus? Regular times or before 'action' as advised on some websites?
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    Quote Originally Posted by H TO THE IZZO
    Get your creatine monohydrate in big tubs at Wal-Mart. No word of a joke.
    Ye Olde Vitamin Shoppe does pretty well by me, especially with the club card discounts. Which is good, 'cause I'm a car-free urbanite without access to CostCo, Wal-Mart, &c.
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    fish oil, glucosimime/condroitin/Vitamin c, Flintstone gummy vitamines (my daughters wont eat them)

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    Anything other than plain ol creatine monohydrate is a waste of money. It's cheap as hell too.

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    ^^ That's just silly. Read the thread, and explain your point of views.
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    With supplements, as with most things, you get what you pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh El Macho
    ^^ That's just silly. Read the thread, and explain your point of views.
    If "anything" = "any supplement", that is just silly.
    If "anything" = "any creatine product", he's basically correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky Fried Chokin
    With supplements, as with most things, you get what you pay for.
    I hope that's sarcasm?
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    Nope, it's true. It doesn't mean you should pay anymore than you have to or that the most expensive brand is the best, but if you buy a supplement that's cheap as ****, you're probably going to wind up with ****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky Fried Chokin
    but if you buy a supplement that's cheap as ****, you're probably going to wind up with ****.
    Okay, here's my supplement list (assume one in the morning and one at night unless I say otherwise):

    Multivitamin
    Vitamin C (500mg, one tab before+after workout)
    Optimum Nutrition whey protein (2 scoops before+after workout)
    Creatine monohydrate (5g before+after workout) <-- not currently taking this
    Timed-release vitamin C (500mg)
    Caffeine (100mg, 3-6/day)
    Omega 3-6-9s (400/400/400mg) <-- will soon be just omega-3s
    Glucosamine/chondroitin/MSM (500/400/400mg)
    Melatonin (3mg, 1-3 before bed)
    Low-carb protein bar (usually third "meal" of the day)
    High-carb protein bar (after workout/between bouts)

    Now, the bulk of those items were purchased at either Costco or Wal-Mart.
    I chose generic over brand-name.
    I chose the $1 Costco bars over the $4 GNC bars.
    The only situation where I actually prioritized something else over price was with the whey protein (slightly more expensive than the stuff I got last time, but much better flavour and solubility)

    So tell me... given that the bulk of my supplementation is done as cheaply as possible, what am I missing out on in terms of performance?
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    Downstreet on the flip-flop, timepants.

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