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  1. Sambo12 is offline
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    Why isn't this on Sociocide?(I like to derail)

    Quote Originally Posted by Southpaw
    Correction. The USA owns "freedom".
    I never understood why the world's "freest" nation practicised racial segregation until 1965. I always thought it was because many of you were racist rednecks with no respect for anyone's 'freedom' except your own.
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    If you don't want to be banned, stop derailing a thread in the FMA forum. Your games will not be tolerated here like they are in YMAS, Sambo.

    In short, shut the **** up.
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    My post is completely in context with the last few posts fuckface.

    Freedom, FREEDOM??????????
    Sorry, to break the new guys but us ‘citizens of the world’ can’t think of 20th-century America without thinking of black segregation. The world thinks that racism is at the root & core of every aspect of American history
    How could America, the country that holds itself to be the bastion of freedom & liberty ever have had racial segregation & the Jim Crow laws until 1965.
    Yeah, you don’t like it. Keep telling yourselves you’re the ‘land of the free.’ It’s just never been a reality; when does it start?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sambo12
    I never understood why the world's "freest" nation practicised racial segregation until 1965.
    Because of our historical position, they were already here. We couldn't just pass laws to keep them from immigrating to our country like you did.

    (Das, this is in YMAS now, maybe rescue the good bits to the FMA forum and we can play with trollboy here?)
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    democrats: a black guy and a closet homosexual.

    republicans: an undead person and overall senior citizen and a borderline white woman.


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    Idon't have that power here. Do me a favor & report the first post, request a thread cleaning & a move to the FMA forum plz.
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    I'm not a troll but sorry I just piss my pants when Americans go off on their 'land of the free' fantasy.

    Yeah, everyone seems to love Dan Inosanto. I was interested to hear that he's been getting a lot of training lately from Pendekar Steve Benitez an amazing Silat master.

    Anyone know about this, or this guy?
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    Every post you've made on Bullshido has been a troll post & you obviously know dickall about US history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sambo12
    My post is completely in context with the last few posts fuckface.

    Freedom, FREEDOM??????????
    Sorry, to break the new guys but us ‘citizens of the world’ can’t think of 20th-century America without thinking of black segregation.
    Well, in general, people all over the world are fucking stupid and cannot tell squat about the countries next to theirs (except those they choose to know about just to satisfy their given ideological and cultural predilections.)

    This "us" that you speak off is nothing more than... well, nothing. It represents nothing. It is an ad hoc fiction you have made to lend a false sense of legitimacy and intellectuality to the bias already presented in your points of view.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sambo12
    The world thinks that racism is at the root & core of every aspect of American history
    See above. Also, your definition of "the world" certainly does not resemble mine (and I wasn't born in the US.) It is a very arrogant presumption of you to speak "for the world".

    Quote Originally Posted by Sambo12
    How could America, the country that holds itself to be the bastion of freedom & liberty ever have had racial segregation & the Jim Crow laws until 1965.
    Recent forms of racism aren't strictly an American phenomenon. Should I list the **** that has occurred until just a decade or two (and still occur) in Europe, in Japan, in Australia?

    Switzerland didn't give Women the right of voting until 1971, Germany was the epicenter of the greatest act of genocide in modern history, and until 2008 Japan denied citizenship to children of a Japanese father and a non-Japanese mother born out of wedlock.

    Do you characterize what those countries represent simply because of those issues?

    When was the last time that you have seen an entire US crowd making monkey sounds at the sight of a colored player (as it regularly occurs in Soccer games in several European countries)? Should we go ahead and start making stupid conclusions about those countries?

    Seriously, this is a break in logical thinking far too common among those who pretend to be critical thinkers (read fucktards who pretend to know what they like to chat about.)

    The fact that the US has been a bastion of freedom is because this has been the usual destination where most people being prosecuted (or fled rampant poverty and oppression) have migrated to.

    No other place in the world has given shelter to so many people of varied ethnic and religious backgrounds. Has the experience of each migrant group been perfect if we look at it retrospectively by our current moral standards? Certainly not.

    Was that experience far more better than the option of not migrating here? **** yeah. No other place in the world for the last 200 years have given the majority (not all) of the people that have moved here on their own free will the ability to do whatever they want and get a chance of succeeding.

    If there has been another country with the same characteristic for the last 200 years, please illuminate me on the subject.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sambo12
    Yeah, you don’t like it. Keep telling yourselves you’re the ‘land of the free.’ It’s just never been a reality; when does it start?
    Maybe not for you from the comfort of your sanctimonious, well-fed keyboard.
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    I appreciate you've written a thoughtful lengthy response so I'm not going to take the piss. I'm certainly aware of the crimes of my own nation although I've never afforded it a 'quasi-divine mission' to the world.

    Yeah, there's a lot of racism across the whole world. Seriously, my dog is a fucking racist, it hates black people. I'm guessing the mutt just sees ninja assassin.

    America has a lot of good points & bad points. It's been a strange mixture of 'freedom' and 'tyranny'; I've read a lot of the Ayn Rand Objectivist stuff and there was too much U.S.A. nutthuggin' for there to be any firm grip on reality present. I'm not a hater, to be honest I'm a lot more pro-American than most of my friends.

    As this is a martial arts forum, and mainly BJJ, I'll remind you that all the Gracie history i.e. 'Gastão Gracie...befriended Mitsuyo Maeda, a Japanese Judoka while assisting Japanese immigrants in their move to the country.' All that happened, after the same Japanese immigrants first tried the U.S.A. but found the country too racist and it wouldn't accept them.

    Sorry, I don't mean to hijack the thread, let's get back to Mr Inosanto ASAP.
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