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  1. pauli is offline

    i keep tryin to spar, but nothin happens!

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    Posted On:
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    flaxseed oil does everything fish oil does, but without the smell.
  2. Zendetta is offline

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    Posted On:
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     Style: MMA, functional JKD

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    get acupuncture.

    yeah, you heard me.
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    Posted On:
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    Check this **** out, boyo:

    Met-rx Joint Guard:


    Chondroiton, Glucosamine, Fatty acids (fish oil). Best damn thing I've ever heard of for soothing the joints of a hardworking ju jitsu enthusiast.

    As with glucosamine and chondroiton supplement, make sure you take them EVERY DAY as directed and in about 4 weeks your entire joint structure will change and will feel much more healthy. You might still stub your toe or get your arm yanked, and it'll still hurt, but you won't have any repeating pain like waking up in the middle of the night as you mentioned. Your joints will heal fast as hell.

    Buy it, love it.

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    "This is why we are here. Because the Martial Arts for too long have been cloaked in an unnecessary level of secrecy bordering on mysticism, and its in these shadows that the cockroaches love to hide. -Phrost"

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  4. maxattck is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/31/2008 9:25pm

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    Sweet, I give that a try. thanks for the link
  5. Skillful is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/31/2008 9:34pm


     Style: Jiu Jitsu

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    I can't even watch the guys on TUF do the ice bath thing after a workout, but wouldn't 3 minutes in the tank likely do the trick for the OP?
  6. Razor_Zedge is offline
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    Posted On:
    10/31/2008 10:36pm


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    Quote Originally Posted by pauli
    flaxseed oil does everything fish oil does, but without the smell.
    Not according to this guy
  7. TheRuss is offline
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    is badder than you

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    I take glucosamine + chondroitin + MSM. I don't think there's any actual science to support the MSM part, but I used to be taking them separately, and when I ran out of MSM, my knees started clicking again. Ancedotal n=1 evidence for the win?

    As far as I know, contrast baths are good for muscular recovery. I don't think they'd do much for joint issues (usually related to cartilage/ligaments/tendons).
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  8. Teh El Macho is offline
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    Posted On:
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    A lot of times it's not even that a sub that gets cranked, but simply working with a joint flexed at a given range over and over and over. If a person pushes or pulls with the elbow, say, constantly flexed at a 45 degree angle, it will be the same, over time, as doing bicep curls or tricep extensions: inflammation where the triceps/biceps meet the elbow.

    If you keep your knees constantly flexed at an angle under pressure: knee pain. Constant gripping: carpal tunnel. Keep falling over and over on the same side: neck and shoulder pain.

    Usually there is a pre-existing condition, an old injury or imbalance, and the training only brings it to the surface. Tapping fast won't really help is this is already affecting you.

    So you gotta be pre-emptive. Something feels funny? Ice the **** out of it and take your ibuprofen. Hell, even if you don't feel anything, ice (or at least use icy hot on) your shoulders, neck, elbows and knees. Inflamation can develop before you actually notice it, so you want to be on top of it at all times.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

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    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
  9. juszczec is offline

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    Posted On:
    11/01/2008 11:25am


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    You've gotten plenty of good advice.

    Only thing I'll add is, if its an imbalance then get it corrected. Some muscle/tendon/ligament is taking over the work of another muscle/tendon/ligament and this MAY over time cause other problems.

    I've got 2 examples - my brother (marathon runner) had an imbalance where the muscles on the outside of his leg were stronger than the ones on the inside. Pulled his kneecap out of place just enough to grind away the cartilage in his knees.

    I'm the other example. Tore the muscles in my lower back doing judo about 18 years ago. Didn't strengthen the right parts of the core. The healthy muscles compensated for the weak ones and, they started yanking vertebra out of alignment. Revamped my core strengthening program and the problem was solved.
  10. maxattck is offline

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    Posted On:
    11/01/2008 11:50am

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    I think Teh El Macho got it right, because I didnt get subed thur night, but was fighting arm bars with my arm bent at 45 degrees while I was stacking. The elbow feels fine after class and during no discomfort at all. It just swells up abit hours later while I am sleeping I guess. I think I will just start going to the gym more often to build up my strength. I have to admit I have let my strength training slack this year.

    Thanks again for all the advice
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