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**tubemode12** · Posted On: 10/31/2008 12:04pm

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Espada y Daga?

Dude, that's a spanish term.

Well, if you're going for the tagalog translation...

Espada means sword, Daga means rat or mouse in tagalog.

But if you go into the deeper meaning of Daga, it means to stab, wound or maim.

The spanish meaning of Espada y Daga is "Sword and Dagger."

It's a spanish term.

The tagalog term would be, "Espada at Kutsilyo"

Tagalog BTW is the national term for the Filipino Language.

***DerAuslander*** · Posted On: 10/31/2008 12:07pm

^duh...

**Meex** · Posted On: 10/31/2008 1:06pm

Kali is the Filipino ancestral term for the group of arts
developed there. Arnis and Eskrima are both Spanish
influenced terms. As with all the tribal dialects, there
are variations on the details in the different arts.

My guro told me there should be millions of variations,
as each eskrimador should have his own 'expresszion
of the training' to show for the effort put into him and
to honor his guro.

Ah, found it (Lapu-Lapu poster):

`~/

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**Meex** · Posted On: 10/31/2008 1:14pm

Originally Posted by tubemode12

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Tagalog BTW is the national term for the Filipino Language.

Except, mostly they speak "Taglish" don't they?

**selfcritical** · Posted On: 10/31/2008 1:26pm

Originally Posted by tubemode12

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Espada y Daga?

Dude, that's a spanish term.

Well, if you're going for the tagalog translation...

Espada means sword, Daga means rat or mouse in tagalog.

But if you go into the deeper meaning of Daga, it means to stab, wound or maim.

The spanish meaning of Espada y Daga is "Sword and Dagger."

It's a spanish term.

The tagalog term would be, "Espada at Kutsilyo"

Tagalog BTW is the national term for the Filipino Language.

It's one of many languages. Illongo would translate differently as well, as would any of a dozen island dialects.

**tubemode12** · Posted On: 10/31/2008 10:43pm

It's one of many languages. Illongo would translate differently as well, as would any of a dozen island dialects.

Yes, it's true.

But basically, tagalog is the national language of the Philippines, everyone here speaks the language.

I have Illongo blood in my veins, and yes, tagalog and illongo are very different.

For example:

I will hit you now - English

Tatamaan Kita ngayon - Tagalog

Patyon taka karon - Bisaya/Illongo

@Meex

You seem to know a lot about Philippine History and Culture.

Is your Guro (Teacher in Tagalog) a Filipino? If he is, you're lucky as ****.

I've yet to meet a single arnisador here in Davao, and this is where Kali was born.

My God, if I had the opportunity...

Sambo

BJJ

Kyokushin

Muay Thai

I'd learn all 4 of those arts... Sucky part though, TKD and Aikido are all we have. :(

**Meex** · Posted On: 11/01/2008 2:50am

Originally Posted by tubemode12

Is your Guro (Teacher in Tagalog) a Filipino?

Yes.
This may interest you. . .
He related to me that as a young man he returned to the PI
intending to study Kali/Escrima with a master. He and a friend
searched all over the PI, but were told that most of the kali
masters had fled to California in the US.

So, he went to Cali and found what he was looking for. . .

`~/

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**Lebell** · Posted On: 11/01/2008 7:20am

mahal na mahal kita putangina.
tsup.

xx

**tubemode12** · Posted On: 11/01/2008 8:53am

@Meex

Wow, that's interesting, thank you very much for the info.

Thanks for sharing that, if you don't mind, you think you could ask him why the Guros suddenly started fleeing for Cali? It would make my day to know.

Good to know, we've got a house in Cali, maybe one day I'll try it out.

We Filipinos prefer California, a lot of minorities there, culture ain't so distorted, and it isn't so high-class like New York.

Just depresses me though, it's like the Philippines has been drained of it's heritage. :(

@Lebell

Mahal rin kita tol, putang ina rin.

Dude, I just came from the red-light district a few hours earlier, this fat ass mother fucker was loading womenz into his van.

There were like 3 other guys with him, Lord knows which hotel he was going to bring them to.

If you have the chance, come visit my town.

Don't get the distorted provincial view of a city though, we've got dozens of clubs and bars here, 7 malls, all that sh1t.

Heck, we've got a GMC too, ain't too bad, all we need is a starbucks.

**Lebell** · Posted On: 11/01/2008 8:59am

Originally Posted by tubemode12

@Lebell

Mahal rin kita tol, putang ina rin.

Dude, I just came from the red-light district a few hours earlier, this fat ass mother fucker was loading womenz into his van.

There were like 3 other guys with him, Lord knows which hotel he was going to bring them to.

If you have the chance, come visit my town.

Don't get the distorted provincial view of a city though, we've got dozens of clubs and bars here, 7 malls, all that sh1t.

Heck, we've got a GMC too, ain't too bad, all we need is a starbucks.

Whereabouts you at?
my ex got a house in mindanao and also one in Bisaja.
Im not terribly interested to visit the phil.
no offence.
im not into the stickfighting stuff.