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    First sanctioned "gloved" boxing match?

    OK, (still) working on Owen Swift, I came across this fight:

    1820 Feb. 29. [Belasco and Sampson], with gloves, 9 rounds. Martin's-street.

    MoQ was, what?, 1860 or so? This is the first fight Swift records that he notes "with gloves" and the fights, he implies at least, are all sanctioned. So, is this the first Sanctioned gloved match?

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    I think that was when they had revised the London Prize Ring rules, but before Queensbury rules. Not sure. But I do know that LPR rules were originally bare-knuckle.

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    Thats when boxing started going down hill, imo.

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    I'd like to see it like in that movie Undisputed, where it was LPR rules with 6 ounce gloves.

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    Before MoQ, gloves ("mufflers"/"mittens") were used for amateur and practice sparring whereas the Prize Ring proper was generally considered bare knuckle.

    The latest dated manual I have which records the London Prize-ring Rules is dated 1913 and it, like all the earlier renditions of the LPR rules, makes no mention of gloves (though there are specific rules prohibiting spikes on your shoes and giving Seconds the right to inspect your shorts to ensure that nothing is in them that shouldn't be).

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    Quote Originally Posted by lklawson
    giving Seconds the right to inspect your shorts to ensure that nothing is in them that shouldn't be).
    Kirk
    I'm going to go ahead and ask for some specifics. What would be in their shorts that shouldn't be there? Marmalade? A bear? Spikes? A Def Leopard album?

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    well, if you had a ninja or two in your shorts, it could seriously affect the outcome of the fight...

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    How about powder to blind your oponent when no one can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domite
    Thats when boxing started going down hill, imo.
    That's when it became what might more accurately be called pillowfighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theword
    I'm going to go ahead and ask for some specifics. What would be in their shorts that shouldn't be there? Marmalade? A bear? Spikes? A Def Leopard album?
    From the standard LPR:

    Quote Originally Posted by London Prize-ring Rules
    5. That on the men being stripped, it shall be the
    duty of the seconds to examine their drawers; and, if
    any objection arises as to insertion of improper sub-
    stances therein, they shall appeal to their umpires, who,
    with the concurrence of the referee, shall direct what
    alteration shall be made.
    Peace favor your sword,
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