10/20/2008 3:17pm, #11Originally Posted by Gezere
I've been choked before whilst wearing a T-Shirt, it's fairly awful, it actually feels better with a Gi because the Gi doesn't cut into the side of your neck :\
10/20/2008 3:28pm, #12
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By the friend's logic, gi dependent throws shouldn't work either.
10/20/2008 3:34pm, #13
Personally, I'd be too concerned about having a knife pulled on me while my hands are busy around his collar to attempt a frontal gi choke and from the back I'd prefer an RNC. People you fight on the street are unlikely to know how to deal with either.
10/20/2008 3:37pm, #14Originally Posted by Shawarma
10/20/2008 3:39pm, #15
If you're going to introduce knives into your self-defense hypothetical, why not just pull a gun?"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." – Voltaire.
10/20/2008 3:44pm, #16
Or a grenade, you know, make it realistic.
10/20/2008 3:45pm, #17
well you wouldn't need a knife becasue 1345.7 of his buddies would be waiting to curb stomp you if you tried to choke their friend.There is no cheating, there is only jiu-jitsu.
10/20/2008 3:48pm, #18Originally Posted by ChickenBeakFist
10/20/2008 3:54pm, #19Originally Posted by ADM
1) Get a training blade, marker, stick, etc. Put the item in your pocket as you would a knife.
2) Have a TRAINED Judoka/BJJ'er try and choke you out with your shirt. Do not tell them there is a knife in play.
3) Try and pull the knife.
Based on my personal experience here is how it will go, you are 'A' and grappler buddy is 'B'
B comes in for a throw...
A goes for the knife...
B sinks in the throw....
A is airborne.....
A is dealing with the momentary "OH ****" factor that happens when you get thrown, knife momentarily forgotten.
B --LANDS ON-- A, yes, ON, as in crush your damn ribs, ON!
A realizes this was a bad idea.
B sinks in the choke
A panics, knife forgotten..... *
A begins to black out
A taps like a little girl.
* A does not panic
A goes for the knife
B sinks in the choke nice and deep as A is not defending
A passes out
Your not going to be able to get a knife into play against a rained Judoka or BJJ'er. Simply put the shock combined with your body thinking it's going to die makes the knife simply not matter.
10/20/2008 3:58pm, #20Personally, I'd be too concerned about having a knife pulled on me while my hands are busy around his collar to attempt a frontal gi choke and from the back I'd prefer an RNC. People you fight on the street are unlikely to know how to deal with either.