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  1. bombom is online now

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    Quote Originally Posted by budokosword
    now now people...there is a "possibility" that it might work, no matter how unlikely it is

    even an untrained fighter has the possibility of knocking somebody out XD
    True, but why waste that kind of time and money training to fight if you are not learning to fight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gezere
    I have used Judo and Boxing in several real fights. If anyone saw they would most likely say it was Judo and Boxing.
    My point is that in my experiences wing chun that works in real fights is simple and subtle. If you were looking for it you'd see it, but it doesn't look like a guy standing with his chin out in a pigeon-toed stance with his hands out in front of his chest in guard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southpaw
    My point is that in my experiences wing chun that works in real fights is simple and subtle. If you were looking for it you'd see it, but it doesn't look like a guy standing with his chin out in a pigeon-toed stance with his hands out in front of his chest in guard.
    Wow. That is chun speak right here.
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    SouthPaw: In other words you've taken some WC principles and applied them yes?

    I'm not having a go at you, I've just seen a few WC spar and what not, and sparred with a couple and they all seem to have that weird stance and weird punching method.

    There's a Senior Brown Belt in my class who's a damn good fighter, when in close he uses some WC principles with his punching to make a gap and setup his kicks (which hurt a lot). When he actually punches to stop / hurt someone though, it's entirely not WC, not to mention his kicks aren't anything like them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by budokosword
    now now people...there is a "possibility" that it might work, no matter how unlikely it is

    even an untrained fighter has the possibility of knocking somebody out XD
    You know what else is possible?

    1) I write this post.
    2) You read this post.
    3) You have a seizure and choke on your own tongue and die.

    Better stop reading now...



















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    Quote Originally Posted by ADM
    SouthPaw: In other words you've taken some WC principles and applied them yes?
    Yes. Exactly. That's all. Does that not count as wing chun working in application?
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    So what you're saying is there are some functioning infighting concepts in Chun, but the stances, punches and kicks are useless?
    Curiosity killed the cat. But damn it had a blast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    Wow. That is chun speak right here.
    Look...we are back to the question as to when I have to stop calling what I do wing chun.

    I don't teach people wing chun, and when I spar we don't call out styles beforehand, so I don't know what the name of the way I fight is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southpaw
    My point is that in my experiences wing chun that works in real fights is simple and subtle. If you were looking for it you'd see it, but it doesn't look like a guy standing with his chin out in a pigeon-toed stance with his hands out in front of his chest in guard.
    My point is that what works in a real fight doesn't have to be "subtle."

    It what works is "subtle" why waste time on it because fights generally aren't a "subtle" thing.
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    So, some folks cross train, and use a bit of the chun here and there to set up stuff.

    Cool. But does the chun stand alone as a good combart art? Can someone train chun and chun alone and reguarly use it to whoop some ass? If so, can someone please post a video of it? And not some fucking lame ass demo. A fight. Ring, street, whatever.

    I would love to see that freaky ass looking **** work, even just once.

    Thanks in advance,

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