Systema

**theotherserge** · Posted On: 10/14/2008 12:22pm

Ryno, the question was about systema, so yeah I'd say check out Aaron cause seeing -in person- where SAMBO/Systema might overlap or don't is better data than opinions from some douchebag who doesnt know what he's talking about, llike fadfad.

Aaron is teh awesome!

**Hesperus** · Posted On: 10/14/2008 1:09pm

Originally Posted by theotherserge

fadfad, do you have anything to contribute besides behaving like an asshat?

Take a look at his style field...that should tell you just about everything you need to know.

**theotherserge** · Posted On: 10/14/2008 1:22pm

oh, thanks! I should pay more attention to these things. :-)

**ironlurker** · Posted On: 10/14/2008 2:44pm

The autumn sun shines

The seasons change like the wind

Systema thread time

**Crushing Step** · Posted On: 10/14/2008 4:46pm

Originally Posted by sujo

I didn't know there where rules about posting in "Newbietown" or anything like that.

You had a fairly calm welcome... posting a newbie thread that's been covered in YMAS is bound to get you flamed, where newbietown is kind of safe.

And systema sucks ass.

**Kentucky Fried Chokin** · Posted On: 10/14/2008 5:26pm

It depends on where you live in Seattle and if you're willing to make the drive. Aron Fields is in Seattle (U district?) and King is on the eastside. Also, there are plenty of MMA gyms where you can do MT at as well as Muarice Smith's school.

**sujo** · Posted On: 10/17/2008 2:52am

Ok. I know Aaron and I know Maurice. I saw Systema on youtube-some of it looked interesting, some of it looked really stupid. I thought I'd ask about it. I didn't ask about muay thai, boxing or sombo. I just wanted to know if any one had trained it, if it really worked, or was it like so many Chinese internal styles that take 35 or more years just to be effective. Just wondering, that's all.

**DdlR** · Posted On: 10/17/2008 3:56am

As someone with a great deal of MA experience and as an active Systema practitioner, yes, the training works; as in, I'm a better fighter now than I was before I started Systema training.

That said, I'll repeat that in my opinion it works best either for people with extensive prior experience in at least one striking and one grappling style, OR for people who are able to make a long-term commitment to the training. A MA newbie who wanted relatively short-term results would do better to train in a more orthodox, technique-based style.

"Some of it looks interesting, some of it looks stupid" is a very common reaction among people who have not trained in the System but who have seen video clips of it on YouTube. Briefly, the stupid-looking exercises are very subtle movement, sensitivity and improvisation drills; they are how you develop the skills to be able to do the good/interesting stuff.

**sujo** · Posted On: 10/20/2008 6:11am

DdlR, thanks for the information. Would it be fair to say that it's similar to Jeet Kune Do in the respect that it gives a new method to skills youallready have?

**DdlR** · Posted On: 10/20/2008 7:20am

Originally Posted by sujo

DdlR, thanks for the information. Would it be fair to say that it's similar to Jeet Kune Do in the respect that it gives a new method to skills youallready have?

I don't know a huge amount about modern JKD but AFAIK their "attribute training" has something in common with Systema training at the conceptual level. The funny-looking Systema drills develop fundamental skills of combative movement - good skeletal alignment, the ability to relax under extreme pressure, sensitivity to the other fighter's movements, ability to improvise, etc.