Systema

**sujo** · Posted On: 10/14/2008 2:16am

Does anybody do Systema? IS this stuff on the level?

**hornyhobo** · Posted On: 10/14/2008 2:19am

In the top right corner of the page you will see random quotes from the site. Keep hitting refresh until you see the one about systema.

Also, this should be in newbietown.

**Libertad** · Posted On: 10/14/2008 2:29am

Yeah sujo, this is probably better posted in newbietown.
Also try to make your threads a little bit more informative.

Do you train Systema?
What do you mean by on the level?

**TheBigSwede** · Posted On: 10/14/2008 3:31am

Search the forums. You'll find lots of systema bashing. The reason is -- I believe -- that systema claims to be a fighting system, which it isn't. That makes it bullshido. As such, it's taught by many McDojos.

It may be a lot of things, but if you want to become a good fighter you need to train something else as well.

**sujo** · Posted On: 10/14/2008 4:20am

No, I don't do Systema-never have never will.
There's a guy here in Seattle who teaches and has a few supporters and I was just wondering about it. I thought maybe someone on here knows something about it and could tell me. I wasted some time in the past on an "internal" chinese martial art and it looks just like that pseudo-mystical qigong crap.
I didn't know there where rules about posting in "Newbietown" or anything like that.

**ADM** · Posted On: 10/14/2008 5:05am

From what I've seen / read, etc (do a search on this site for a VERY good look into the teachings of Systema) I can tell you it's really not for me. I personally don't think much of it, but that's just my opinion.

**sujo** · Posted On: 10/14/2008 6:18am

Thanks. I'm new to bullshido and still learning my way around the site.

**DdlR** · Posted On: 10/14/2008 9:42am

I've been training in Ryabko Systema twice a week since January. Note that there are numerous styles of Systema, but Ryabko's is the most commonly taught in the USA.

IMO, and it's not an especially popular opinion, Systema is an excellent training method provided that either 1) the student already has extensive and diverse training in at least one striking and one grappling-oriented style OR 2) the student is prepared to make a serious, long-term commitment to learning Systema. I do not recommend it to MA newbies looking for a quick fix.

The reason is that Systema is based on a very open-ended set of training drills that stress good tactical movement and the ability to improvise, as opposed to the much more common training model of drilling combinations of specific techniques.

I've been training in a wide range of MA for over thirty years and I'm getting a hell of a lot out of Systema training; YMMV, depending on your experience, expectations and attitude.

**theotherserge** · Posted On: 10/14/2008 10:47am

OP, the Seattle group: Brian King (who I've worked with) and Erich run a very good systema training group. I reccommend you check out a class, it will take you days to get thru the Systema threads that'll come up in a search.

Just try it, is time better spent.