Teaching Ne-Waza in Judo vs. in BJJ

[100xobm]

Oh ya, u'll g3t ur Judo BB in liek, 4 yrs.

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Train waht you want. If you wanna train bjj and Judo, then train both!


but no seriously, a Judo BB isn't like a krotty/tkd blackbelt...

I know it'll take a long time. I'm happy about the fact.
I meant it more in the sense that it's all much of a muchness and I may as well do what I prefer. I tried the BJJ class, but just didn't find it as much fun. No-Gi's different though.

[3moose1]

I know it'll take a long time. I'm happy about the fact.
I meant it more in the sense that it's all much of a muchness and I may as well do what I prefer. I tried the BJJ class, but just didn't find it as much fun. No-Gi's different though.

Just do what you want, homeboy.

[FictionPimp]

i thought that was still the rule!?! god i am so fucked, my first judo tourney is on the 26th and i dont even know the rules

If they pick you up it is now matte. Which means you wasted all that time and energy. So don't let them pick you up.

[JudOWNED]

It does work as a good _competition only_ escape from sankaku. In fact, I've heard that's why you don't see a lot of people go for sankaku, because all one has to do is stand up out of it.

[Blue Negation]

Conversely, a lot of judoka do not know the proper defenses for a triangle because they're used to training as if the ref will stop the fight if they get vaguely to their feet, even if their posture is still broken or the leg is hooked so they have no chance of actually picking up the triangler and they're making gurgling noises as the ref yells "matte".

[KO'd N DOA]

I curious about how teaching methods are different between the two. What is the game plan behind the teacher? Do either instructors learn how to teach with lesson plans or is it go on the fly and wing it.

In Judo I found they would make sure you were up to speed and knew your level and for belt testing requirments and could hold your own in some tournaments. The BJJ school that I am in is far more competition oriented and geared and retaining students.

"Okay who saw that fight last week...[insert fight (such as Lesnar vs Mir)]...this see why and how these techniques work".

Teaching methodes were very different. One was a 2x a full time BJJ instructor, the other a recreational Judo, 2x a week. Is it different at the more competative Judo scene?

[JudOWNED]

We'll build on stuff from one week to the next. Example: Instructor will introduce a new throw one week. Next week another throw. Week three will show how throw 1 is a set-up for throw 2, which we will then work the combo. Rinse and repeat. Newaza will pretty much get a new technique every week, though usually in a series (work turnovers for a coupla weeks, then pinning series for a couple weeks, etc.).

[FictionPimp]

My experience judo class is usually like this:
Uchi Komi
Uchi Komi
Uchi Komi
More Uchi Komi
Tournament shows up on board
Uchi Komi then randori
Uchi Komi then Randori
Maybe a day of matwork

My bjj class is like this
condishing drills + technique demonstration, technique drills with and without resitance, sparing.

Every single time.

[Beorn]

My experience judo class is usually like this:
Uchi Komi
Uchi Komi
Uchi Komi
More Uchi Komi
Tournament shows up on board
Uchi Komi then randori
Uchi Komi then Randori
Maybe a day of matwork

I honestly feel sorry for you. My judo club:

Mon:
30 min uchi komi
1hr specific technique work

wed:
20-30min uchi komi
30min specific technique work
30min-1hr tachi waza randori

fri:
warm up with ne-waza randori (about 1 hr)
1hr tachi waza randori

sunday:
no one shows up so whatever u want

[T3hJudoChop]

I know it'll take a long time. I'm happy about the fact.
I meant it more in the sense that it's all much of a muchness and I may as well do what I prefer. I tried the BJJ class, but just didn't find it as much fun. No-Gi's different though.

You can always teach yourself a bit of groundwork, using your newaza time to play with some moves.