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  1. Hesperus is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1
    Its kind of like the difference between sorcerers and wizards in DnD.

    God, i'm a nerd...
    Eh, vaguely. Far more like two Fighters, archetypical Dwarf and Elf. One will burn the other in one phase or another, but what phase you wind up in isn't always up to you. Best to meet in the middle: Humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1
    Its kind of like the difference between sorcerers and wizards in DnD.

    Ahhh now why didn't you just say that to begin with? :)
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     Style: BJJ, JJJ, Judo

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    Like everyone said, the biggest emphasis is trying to get a pin or a sub straight off a throw. The guard position doesn't even have a name, and stalling is encouraged since you only have about ten seconds to pass, and trying to pass can leave you open for sweeps and subs. Sangaku jime isn't really taught that often because it's easy enough to stall in if not locked in correctly, the only subs I've ever seen consistently taught from bottom guard are juji gatame, ude gatame and a cross collar choke since they rely on your opponent doing something wrong and very quickly getting the sub on instead of really having to work for it.
    Also, subs are really underemphasised in some clubs because a lot of the players will be around 14-15 years old, and cannot use subs at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1
    Its kind of like the difference between sorcerers and wizards in DnD.

    God, i'm a nerd...
    Oh-****, do you really want sirc in this thread?

    I'd say its like the difference between two economics students where one focuses on macro-economics and the other on micro-economics. There is crossover knowledge and its in the same general area of study, but a macro-economist won't know the indepth parts of certain micro-theories without cross-studying.

    (analogies suck)
    Last edited by Sang; 10/12/2008 5:14am at .
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by kultist
    Sangaku jime isn't really taught that often because it's easy enough to stall in if not locked in correctly
    It counts as a pin though if you get them sort of upside down (showing off my brilliant grasp of judo terminology :listen: )
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    Quote Originally Posted by poker
    It counts as a pin though if you get them sort of upside down (showing off my brilliant grasp of judo terminology :listen: )
    Do you mean the weird version where you have them rolled over and you are sitting on them as you apply the strangle?

    Also, I'd say the mega nerdy Mage/Sorcerer comparison lines up pretty nicely, with the mage representing judo with a much wider array of tricks, and the sorcerer having less actual skills (eg very little gripfighting, rudimentary takedowns) but being very good at using the skills he does have.
    Last edited by kultist; 10/12/2008 9:17am at .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hesperus
    Eh, vaguely. Far more like two Fighters, archetypical Dwarf and Elf. One will burn the other in one phase or another, but what phase you wind up in isn't always up to you. Best to meet in the middle: Humans.

    Slash cross-training between BJJ & Judo..
    You need an intelligence and charisma score of at LEAST 15 to be able to do that.

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    3moose1 is correct. Sig THAT, you fucker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hesperus
    Eh, vaguely. Far more like two Fighters, archetypical Dwarf and Elf. One will burn the other in one phase or another, but what phase you wind up in isn't always up to you. Best to meet in the middle: Humans.

    Slash cross-training between BJJ & Judo..
    No, it's more like a Shadow priest and a warlock in terms of dps :P

    One is really meant to heal but knows how to dps and the other is a pure dps class =D
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    Quote Originally Posted by kultist
    Do you mean the weird version where you have them rolled over and you are sitting on them as you apply the strangle?
    Sort of like in this at 1:38 YouTube - Sankaku Jime except with him upside down with you on your hands. Very nice for defeating teh turtle that gets so much on the BJJers tits.

    This thread discusses it in the judo forum http://judoforum.com/index.php?showtopic=25162

    Damn my embed fu to hell why doesn't it work ???
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    Posted On:
    10/12/2008 11:15am

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    That's a yoko sankaku jime (sp?)

    I'm pretty sure it's not a pin, because when we practice it, we go first for a choke, then for an arm lock as backup, and a switch to a north-south pin if all else fails.


    p.s. The embedding should happen automatically, but if it doesn't work try putting the video hash (the crazy letters after "v=" in the url) inside [yt] tags.
    Last edited by CrackFox; 10/12/2008 11:19am at .
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