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    Quote Originally Posted by musicalmike235
    I noticed the footwork as well. My big problem with that throw is that when I try to enter in to it, I usually don't get my hips close enough to his, or I end up with my feet too far apart.
    always back-step as far around as you can, it seems like you're throwing yourself off-balance-which you are-but you restore your balance by tossing your partner...
    Many things we do naturally become difficult only when we try to make them intellectual subjects. It is possible to know so much about a subject that you become totally ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theotherserge
    always back-step as far around as you can, it seems like you're throwing yourself off-balance-which you are-but you restore your balance by tossing your partner...
    Are you talking about the part where you pivot just before you load the guy up for the throw?
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    musicalmike:

    Try getting your hips a foot behind his, as if you could pass right through them like a ghost...
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    yes! Pivot and get past/through him.
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    i don't see it as a case of "vs". you should be doing both. relax the muscles that don't need to be used, don't blow any more energy than you have to - but you also have to put in 100% of your strength to pull off certain things.
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    i'm pretty sure for throws you need to stay relaxed so as not to telegraph... but when throw time comes you need to explode or it'll never work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musicalmike235
    Are you talking about the part where you pivot just before you load the guy up for the throw?
    Yes, in that vid, the cool part to watch is the bird's-eye view, you can see how his upper-body moves just ahead of his lower-body, creates a "snap".

    I think what is happening with very high level throwers like this is they're tensing/relaxing/tensing again within the space of a second. It's an effect of working with the space created with the jacket grip/pull/push.
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    on TV one day i saw a bit of this show where someone was trying to built a human-ish looking robot that could do flips and land on its feet. they found after a lot of work that there were only certain parts of the robot they had to control, and other parts they just had to let loose. for example, the shoulders at one point had to be allowed to go "floppy" to help stabilise the flip.
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