Sansoo vs. MMA attempt

**bbyoshi147** · Posted On: 10/06/2008 2:19pm

Now, recently at school I was trying to get another student to join my martial arts school (Ma Du mixed martial arts academy) after an extended talk about recent fights, gsp, bj penn etc. He had another friend that apparently did San Soo Kung Fu who told him that bjj etc is useless against a san soo fighter because he'll be disabled before he can get close. I of course said that was rediculous, and said friend wanted to fight me. Now, I've only been training a little over a year and a half in bjj and boxing as well as muay thai, with my focus being primarily in bjj, so I agreed to the "sparring" session since, honestly, I was curious to see how he would go about stopping the clinch or takedown. I took 4th in the armed forces pankration, so I was fairly confident I would do fine. However, after talking to the guy on the phone to try to set something up, he immediately said that he was just a "baby" in the art, and would not be a fair judgement of his style vs mine. I asked him how long he'd been studying to which he responded 6 years. I told him I'd only been doing it for less than 2, but he respondes saying that he had no ground game, and we should try against his "street deadly" instructor that scares even him. Now keep in mind that I accepted a "challenge" from him with a 30 lb disadvantage: Me being 170 and him being 200. He told me he challenged me to even get his instructor on the ground, who is 240lbs and about 6'2" to my 5'9". Of course that would be a rediculous mismatch, so I told one of the other students from my school, a student of a little more than 2 years and about 230lbs, and we're heading over to his school on Sunday, respectully just to watch and ask questions (he said to ask his instructor what he would do if we did this, or that etc) and possibly light sparring. This of course would mean that he would come check out our school afterwards. Just wanted to let you guys know, and will keep you posted.

**Beorn** · Posted On: 10/06/2008 2:28pm

in before YMAS....

EDIT: for spelling and to say that if he had really been doing san shou for six years, shouldn't he know takedowns and takedown defense? or is that just sanda rules?

**Scott Larson** · Posted On: 10/06/2008 2:29pm

"bjj etc is useless against a san soo fighter because he'll be disabled before he can get close."

After 6 years, he should not be saying things like this. I don't think this is going to end well.

edit: oh yeah, wrong forum.

**Rivington** · Posted On: 10/06/2008 2:40pm

Doesn't the YouTube vid that ends with the cracked arm feature a San Soo person being beaten (and broken)?

At any rate, why is the baby San Soo man arranging fights for his instructor? What a dolt. Now it's just up to seeing how dumb the instructor is, I suppose.

**Jim_Jude** · Posted On: 10/06/2008 3:09pm

Originally Posted by Rivington

Doesn't the YouTube vid that ends with the cracked arm feature a San Soo person being beaten (and broken)?

At any rate, why is the baby San Soo man arranging fights for his instructor? What a dolt. Now it's just up to seeing how dumb the instructor is, I suppose.

If the instructor is worth his salt (regardless of art) then I know at least ONE guy that'll be getting smacked around some...
you don't issue challenges for other people, especially people that are "street deadly".

**Rivington** · Posted On: 10/06/2008 3:10pm

Here it is.

YouTube - MMA VS Kung Fu

**Scott Larson** · Posted On: 10/06/2008 3:20pm

I'd like to hear about where these guys are now. (in the vid)

**vinhthekid** · Posted On: 10/06/2008 3:33pm

hey you train with ma du.

what's nam like?

**madmagus777** · Posted On: 10/06/2008 7:48pm

Originally Posted by Beorn

in before YMAS....

EDIT: for spelling and to say that if he had really been doing san shou for six years, shouldn't he know takedowns and takedown defense? or is that just sanda rules?

san soo is not san shou.

**bbyoshi147** · Posted On: 10/06/2008 11:35pm

Originally Posted by vinhthekid

hey you train with ma du.

what's nam like?

Really nice guy, very humble. Doesn't hold back when he teaches, and actively spars/rolls with all the students. Won't hesitate to show you any move you ask (when you get submitted with something new etc). http://www.iamnam.com/id16.html That's me in the first picture :tongue5: