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  1. East or West? is offline

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    10/12/2008 10:19pm

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    I thought fight of the night went to Carrano/ Kobold -- good back and forth action, some stuff I hadn't seen before (foot stomps?)

    On another note, the "are there shady incentives to handle a fight a certain way" question really makes you look at a lot of MMA fights differently. More than once we've seen top-notch or really good grapplers go to striking with dramatic results (Gonzaga v. Cro Cop, Couture vs Sylvia,) and sometimes with more-or-less what you'd expect (Ortiz vs.Liddell) With Couture it looked like genius, esp. with Sylvia's reach advantage, but what if it were all "incentivized?"

    weird.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMcClaw
    I'd like to throw in my two cents for the mismatches they threw to Cung Le, especially his first two fights. If I'm not mistaken, Mike Altman and Brian Warren were fighters Cung Le had already defeated in San Shou matches. That and the suspicious lack of desire for most of his opponents to try and take him down... I must suspect something's going on there. Who would stand in MMA with someone who's already beaten you in a kickboxing match.
    We had a pretty big thread when the Cung vs Frank fight went down.

    Heck, I think you posted in it?
  3. mmafan3450 is offline

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    10/13/2008 4:49pm


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    Someone probably already pointed this out, but I dont feel like reading the whole thread. Kimbo is no more of a MMA fighter than he was a street fighter. If he needs to be given a label, it should be "street boxer." There were rules to his street fighting matches, such as punching only. That does not constitute a street fight. I could see them saying no trash cans, beer bottles or chains, but how can you not allow any kicks, knees, elbows or wrestling and still try to call it a street fight. He had it coming and so did EliteXC.
  4. Big Dozer is offline
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    10/14/2008 12:39am


     Style: Judo, Wrestling, Kendo

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    I have spent the last few days emailing, calling and messaging every Kimbo fan I know and telling them of this douchebaggery. It has been obvious to me what they were up to since the Thompson fight. This guy is just a damn yardtard, nothing more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkdbuck76
    I was a little upset to hear that Kimbo was going to be fighting Grandpa Shamrock.
    That's when I thought that it was a little too much like the old saturday morning WWF matches.... you know "The Ultimate Warrior vs Kenny Schwartz" or "Randy the Macho Man Savage takes on Dave; just Dave. No last name. Just Dave."

    Will the perception of fight fixing kill EliteXC? No. I mean, people never run Don King out of town.
    haha what about Leaping Lanny Poffo

    what's he saying anyway? The second part looks to me like "you fucked up"
    They killed JFK in '63, so what the **** you think they'll do to me?
  6. PETER P. is offline

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    10/16/2008 4:36pm

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    It's so sad to see that nothing seems to be real.
  7. Teh El Macho is offline
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    Posted On:
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    wut? :icon_scra
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

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    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Posted On:
    10/19/2008 5:02am

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRuss
    A richly-deserved pistol whip. I mean, how hard is it to understand? Put two (preferably well-matched) guys in the cage and let 'em have at it. Instant entertainment. It's not that complicated.
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    by the way did any1 hear about this guy Moyses? He got paid $1 to fight in the card with Tank/Kimbo. I'm not lying!
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    Posted On:
    10/21/2008 9:03am


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    10/21/2008 9:19pm


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    Now look what you did Phrost! douche bag of the month =Quit!(out of biz.)
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