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Posted On:
10/07/2008 9:18am--
Again, it's this bit of conventional wisdom I don't really agree with, unless we consider adding more resistance or performing more reps every workout to be a "shocking principle", but I always thought that was simply progressive resistance/overload.
Originally Posted by foxguitar
I've seen lots of works that spoke in regard to staying on the same routines for long stretches of time, and simply microloading to make steady gains through out the period of a year. This is much of what Stuart McRobert's writings are based on.
I'm not saying that "shocking" doesn't work, I just feel that it's overemphasized in most young trainees. You see kids in the gym that are constantly changing routines because they want to "keep their bodies guessing", even though they never stuck with a routine long enough to get any progress."Emevas,
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10/07/2008 10:29am
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Originally Posted by Emevas
yes you are right new trainees should stick to the old tried and true routines . But after awhile your body will adjust to the same old same old.
shocking the muscles could be a subtle as going higher rep scheme instead of doing 3x8 lets say do 3x15
Some people take the same routine in the gym day after day , but to me and Ive trained for quite awhile would you want to go to a restaurant and order the same thing everyday.
But heres the kicker there is no right or wrong , each trainee has to find for himself or herself what works best for their own body.
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10/07/2008 10:53am
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The only thing I disagree with here is is isolation exercises like skull crushers and curls. If he's just starting lifting, then he'll get plenty of volume gain in individual muscles following a solid routine of compound exercises (assuming appropriate nutrition and no weird chemical imbalances.)
Originally Posted by foxguitar
The beginner workout that I did when I first got dedicated to getting strong looked like this:
Monday: Bench x 3 sets, Bodyweight Dips x 3 sets, Military Press x 3 sets
Tuesday: Squats x 3 sets, Deadlift x 3 sets
Wednesday: Bodyweight Pullups x 3 sets, Bent over Barbell Row x 3 sets, Good Morning x 2 sets (I added this as my lower back needed some extra bang to get my squats and deadlifts up)
Thursday: Incline Dumbbell Bench Press x 3 sets, Seated Dumbbell Press x 2 sets, Bodyweight Dips x 2 sets
Friday: Bodyweight Pullups x 3 sets, Seated rows x 2 sets, Front Squats x 2 sets
Now, I didn't provide rep ranges because you will run this routine on a three week cycle.
Week 1: 10 - 12 reps
Week 2: 7 - 10 reps
Week 3: 3 - 5 reps
Run the cycle 4 times (or twelve weeks) and you will have built a nice base of muscle endurance, maximal strength, and some mass (once again assuming you are eating appropriately, read the stickies on nutrition.)
I saw very solid results with this routine and it allowed me to work on all of the fundamental exercises for solid core strength. After your 12 weeks, then you can start looking into "functional" training with more endurance work, mass work, explosive work, power work, etc. based on what your goals are going to be. -
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Posted On:
10/07/2008 10:58am
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Originally Posted by DannyMac
I hear ya
I added the Curls and the Skull Crushers because alot of trainers want to do some arm work.
Besides the Bench most guys love training arms while most hate the squat which ironically if you had to pick one exercise to the exclusion of all others. Id pick the squat.
But great post good points



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