noob question about grappling

**Rancid Pantaloons** · Posted On: 10/04/2008 5:48am

I stumbled upon something on the youtube and I was wondering if this kind of moves work.. sure they can work but for me they seen abit fare fetched. It seems that there is alot of things that has to work for these techniques to work. Am I makeing any sense?

YouTube - Guillotine Sweep when being stacked

YouTube - The Pisa Sweep from Mission Control

**shtupidhead** · Posted On: 10/04/2008 5:56am

first one possible but difficult (thats what you get for letting yourself get into a bad position)

second is one of my favorites although I usually hook the leg with my arm instead of grabbing the pants. Leg grab rollover sweep is the bomb.

**fedeykin** · Posted On: 10/04/2008 6:07am

the first one works in a very specific situation.

the second is more common

to answer your question, yes they do work and yes they require specific situations to do so.

**shtupidhead** · Posted On: 10/04/2008 6:09am

Originally Posted by fedeykin

to answer your question, yes they do work and yes they require specific situations to do so.

as does every single other technique

**DKJr** · Posted On: 10/04/2008 6:54am

I just bicycle if someone stacks like that, simple and quick way to remove their base.

**cjlcjl** · Posted On: 10/04/2008 6:55am

Here's a video of Xande doing the non rubber guard version of the 2nd sweep.

http://www.matratz.com/2008/10/01/xa...eferred-moves/

**shtupidhead** · Posted On: 10/04/2008 7:06am

xande and saulo are god amongst men

when I first saw that clip it taught me more about that sweep than doing it fifty times in class. its now my single favourite sweep of all time.

**Diesel_tke** · Posted On: 10/04/2008 7:17am

The second sweep is pretty good. It works also if you hook the leg in no gi. I don't like it from rubber guard though. The rubber guard is too easy to get out of in that position. You just have to stack up. Then he can't hold the rubber guard on you. The version from Xande was a lot better. I would drill that one.

The guillotine sweep was stupid. There are too many reasons that you should never do that. I could see if you were rolling with a noob and you just wanted to screw around. But don't try that on anyone who has a couple of months training.