Hey Atlanta, Here's a Good one

**CJJScout** · Posted On: 10/03/2008 1:25pm

Rock Solid Karate

I'm sure they are good at Tang So Do, but call and ask about their MMA program. The school owner can't even tell you the lineage of the MMA instructor's BJJ credentials even though that instructor is his brother.

Go ahead, call him up and ask him who the MMA instructor (who he claims is a BJJ guy) has trained under. He'll throw out some names from seminars he has attended but doesn't know his rank or who gave it to him. Keep in mind, this is his brother! Also, I happen to know that the instructor is a BJJ WHITE BELT with about 4 months training.

A purple belt buddy of mine went in to scope this place out and gave me the scoop.

**Diesel_tke** · Posted On: 10/03/2008 1:58pm

So the guys BJJ sux. How is his MMA? You don't have to be a BJJ black belt to teach MMA.

**GettingLessFat** · Posted On: 10/03/2008 8:38pm

Yeah! Maybe it's Kung Fu mixed with Tae Kwon Do. A deadly combination.

**MaxThunderstone** · Posted On: 10/03/2008 9:16pm

So the guys BJJ sux. How is his MMA? You don't have to be a BJJ black belt to teach MMA.

But you'd better not be a white belt.

**Diesel_tke** · Posted On: 10/04/2008 7:08am

Why not. Mat Hughes is a BJJ white belt. You can train in other styles without training in BJJ. Katch Wresling. Freestyle wrestling. Sambo. Judo. Submission Grappling. Shoot fighting. All of them have good efficient ground fighting systems. Combine any of those with a good striking style and you have a pretty good MMA style. And all of them would be considered white belts in BJJ.

The question should be...What qualifies the guy to teach MMA? And has anyone rolled with the guy?

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 10/04/2008 7:24am

Originally Posted by diesel_tke

Why not. Mat Hughes is a BJJ white belt. You can train in other styles without training in BJJ. Katch Wresling. Freestyle wrestling. Sambo. Judo. Submission Grappling. Shoot fighting. All of them have good efficient ground fighting systems. Combine any of those with a good striking style and you have a pretty good MMA style. And all of them would be considered white belts in BJJ.

The question should be...What qualifies the guy to teach MMA? And has anyone rolled with the guy?

They claim JiuJitsu so, his rank and lineage do matter.

Please don't derail the thread with your semantic battle. If you claim to teach something you should be able to provide sources. Matt Hughes can show his lineage.

Rock Solid Karate has just added an exciting MMA program. We will cover stand up, Judo and Jiu Jitsu.

So, yes, it matters if you are going to claim to teach a specific style.

If they say we are teaching Judo and Grappling then, you'd have a point.

**Kung-Fu Joe** · Posted On: 10/04/2008 7:53am

Just as a point, the "Instructors" page on their site has no mention of either Judo or Jiu-Jitsu (of any sort) for either teacher, even though their MMA program claims to teach them.

--Joe

**MaxThunderstone** · Posted On: 10/05/2008 2:36am

Why not. Mat Hughes is a BJJ white belt. You can train in other styles without training in BJJ. Katch Wresling. Freestyle wrestling. Sambo. Judo. Submission Grappling. Shoot fighting. All of them have good efficient ground fighting systems. Combine any of those with a good striking style and you have a pretty good MMA style. And all of them would be considered white belts in BJJ.

If you hold the equivalent ground skills through another style then your BJJ does NOT suck. If your BJJ or sub grappling skills DO suck, then you don't need to be teaching MMA.

**v1y** · Posted On: 10/05/2008 4:44pm

matt hughes is not at the level of a bjj white belt.

this guy is.

**CJJScout** · Posted On: 10/07/2008 6:54am

If you want to get into semantics, I would agree that you don't have to be a BJJ blackbelt to teach MMA. This guy claims to be a BJJ guy, but his brother couldn't provide his lineage or rank. He could only provide several names that it sounds like he attended seminars under. Maybe ranked in Tang So Doo, but...

He has been rolled with and he is terrible. Not qualified in any way to teach any sort of ground. No BJJ skills and no wrestling skills.