WT is way better for the street Gracie self defense tecniques I've seen are nonsense

**swordmasterfire** · Posted On: 10/01/2008 8:31pm

. I like WT and I think it's effective for self defense and street fighting. I have sparred with some grappling guys who are not experts and they can easily take me down and put me on a chokehold or lock. I don't worship WT and I think Royce could have beaten Emin . I think Bjj is a way more effective for no holds barred sports fights . I don't know how street fights are there in the States but here people get killed very often in them, usually stabbbed or beaten to death by people that just get involved in the fights( friends or family of one of the fighters). I do know that fights often end up in the ground but staying on it to fight is not a chance here .You will only get killed, WT in my opinion, is better for self defense because It gives you the oportinity to run away (yeah you read that right...). Whatever people say, Sports are sports and street fighting is street fighting( I'm not saying challenge matches, I mean street fighting to save your life, not to prove how tough you are)However agree that I'd love to see some WT guys showing what they can do in a MMA fight, is not that they are so limited in their arsenal that they can't make the system work. And I do believe they have to prove it in the mixed martial arts arena although they will need grappling to have a fair chance

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 10/01/2008 8:45pm

Hello.

Welcome to MABS (Martial Arts BS, Fraud, Investigations, and Standards).

I have moved your post to newbietown because, you tried to resurrect a thread with your opinion. The opinion you added includes _ing _un lineage, Street debates, anecdotal stories, and silly statements like:

I don't know how street fights are there in the States but here people get killed very often in them. usually stabbbed up to 35 times or beaten to death by people that just get involved in the fights( friends or family of one of the fighters).

Please read the stickies. I'm giving you a chance but, I have a sneaky feeling this will end up in YMAS.

Also, you added nothing to a basically three year old thread.
Challenging Emin Boztepe - No BS Martial Arts

**Kentucky Fried Chokin** · Posted On: 10/01/2008 9:12pm

So it's the MMA fighters' fault for not using WT? Not the WT fighters faults' for not competing? That is so fucking retarded I want to **** my pants.

**Kistrael** · Posted On: 10/01/2008 9:20pm

We all know since _ing _un doesn't work in the ring, where people hit hard, it will work better on Teh Str33t, where people hit hard.

Oh man, this is going to be a great thread.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 10/01/2008 9:21pm

See, I missed that part in the jumbled mess. Welcome to YMAS.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 10/01/2008 9:25pm

Originally Posted by swordmasterfire

I just think this is really stupid. I like WT and I think it's effective for self defense and street fighting. I have sparred with some grappling guys who are nor experts and they can easily take me down and put me on a chokehold or lock. I don't worship WT and I think Royce could have beaten Emin but I don't care. I think Bjj is a way more effective for no holds barred sports fights , but I live in a very dangerous country in South America. I don't know how street fights are there in the States but here people get killed very often in them. usually stabbbed up to 35 times or beaten to death by people that just get involved in the fights( friends or family of one of the fighters). I do know that fights often end up in the ground but staying on it to fight is not a chance here .You will only get killed, WT is way better for the street specially Ebmas in my opinion. Besides the Gracie self defense tecniques I've seen are nonsense., I challenge you to try them in my country. Whatever people say, Sports are sports and street fighting is street fighting.( I'm not saying challenge matches, I mean street fighting to save your life, not to prove how tough you are)However agree that I'd love to see some WT guys showing what they can do ina MMA fight, is not that they are so limited in their arsenal that they can't make the system work.

Just in case you go the delete route. This post has every cliche I have heard concerning Sport vs Street.

**Kistrael** · Posted On: 10/01/2008 9:29pm

Originally Posted by It is Fake

Just in case you go the delete route. This post has every cliche I have heard concerning Sport vs Street.

I hope he doesn't delete it, it's more fun when you catch these threads early.

**DKJr** · Posted On: 10/01/2008 9:29pm

I think what he says has some merit I mean with one on one in the ring I can't bring three of my jiu jitsu buddies to beat his ass even more and also simultaneously armbar, kimura, and knee bar him.

**Yohan** · Posted On: 10/01/2008 9:31pm

First off, you're a fucking troll.

Second off, it's hilarious that you are from South America and are saying BJJ doesn't work in the streets, even though it was developed by street fighting Brazilians.

The irony is deliciou.s