9/23/2008 7:34pm, #1
That technique Batman applies in this new movie...
So yours truly watched The Dark Knight a few weeks ago, and all the while felt the little boy in his soul jumping: I wanna do that, too! Jump from skyscrapers, jump from a plane AND THEN GET BACK IN, beat an entire SWAT team... And be a buddy of Gary Oldman, because he is Dracula.
Now, while I enjoyed the usual Hollywood action, one scene got me thinking:
When Bruce Wayne knocks down Harvey Dent at the party.
Wayne comes from behind, basically chokes Dent,
and Dent seemingly passes out within a second.
I wonder, is this just Hollywood imaginating Teh D34dly again, or can one really do that?
- I realize this is just a fantasy movie we're talking about, but I recall at least Batman Begins bragged with drawing the fighting techniques from KFM and being oooh so real. So, one reason more why I should never mess with a BJJ guy, or just the usual BS?
9/23/2008 7:53pm, #2
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While I don't remember seeing the exact move, could it have been a choke hold? Choke holds can cause unconsciousness in 10 to 20 seconds.
Shime-waza or the "choke hold", when properly applied, should not cause death; therefore, its primary purpose should be to subdue violent suspects. When properly applied, the choke hold causes unconsciousness in 10 to 20 s. No fatalities as a result of shime-waza have been reported in the sport of judo since its inception in 1882. Among the methods of "control holds" taught to law enforcement officers is the choke hold similar or identical to shime-waza used in judo. Using the choke hold, officers may afford themselves maximum safety while subjecting the suspect to a minimum possibility of injury. The author has reviewed 14 fatalities with autopsy findings where death was allegedly caused by the use of choke holds.
9/23/2008 8:03pm, #3
9/23/2008 8:09pm, #4
Batman's RNC ko'd Dent a little fast, but a sudden and tight choke can put you out really quick.
9/23/2008 8:10pm, #5
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As fast as 3 to 7 seconds. If done right, no can defend!
For dramatic effect in the movie they would make it almost instantaneous."Sifu, I"m niether - I'm a fire dragon so don't **** with me!"
9/23/2008 8:14pm, #6For dramatic effect in the movie they would make it almost instantaneous.
Edit: Just for the record, I personally think that would've been awesome.
9/23/2008 8:17pm, #7
By the way, is it just me or does everybody who throws a punch in that movie seem to know teh _ing _un trapping? Even Joker's street-style seems to involve it.
9/23/2008 8:21pm, #8
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Yep everyone here is correct. I choke put on hard and fast that cuts off the blood supply to the brian will put you out in a matter of seconds.______
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9/23/2008 8:23pm, #9
9/23/2008 9:18pm, #10
Where's the clip of the yayas that tested how long a RNC and triangle took to make someone pass out? It was less than 8 seconds once secured. Maybe 4...?