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  1. DdlR is offline
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    Savate film from 1894

    YouTube - SAVATE - FRENCH BOXING - 1894 - Boxe francaise

    The sparring is nothing special - light-contact demonstration bouting - but given that this was shot in the year 1894, this might be the oldest martial arts film footage in the world.
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    Awesome.
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    I guess we've come a long way. I thought I saw a bujinkan lunge punch in there.
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    Interesting is the fact that in all the old savate movies that I've seen so far, the fighters seem a lot bigger in size and with less balance when compared with modern savateurs
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    Just sayin', most people ever are less graceful than a quality savateur.
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    I wouldn't use this footage to judge technique too much; it was the 1890s equivalent of a special effects test shoot.

    The producers (the famous Lumiere brothers) were testing their technology more than trying to record savate for posterity. For example, it would have been convenient for the Lumieres that savateurs wore white bodysuits, since their camera worked best when photographing high-contrast subjects (white on black, etc.)

    The fighters are obviously doing their best to stay within the frame and put on a show.

    Bear in mind that at this time, levels of contact were highly political and controversial in savate circles. Basically, everyone wanted to score lucrative contracts to teach savate as "physical culture" in schools, the French Army, etc. There was a long, bitter dispute between people who wanted to "soften" the art into strictly light contact "assaut" point sparring, vs. the traditionalists who wanted harder contact to compete with English boxers.
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    Still better than 'Never Back Down'.
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    WOW! Thanks for posting that man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razamataz
    Still better than 'Never Back Down'.
    Then again what isn't?
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    Also the Lumiere brothers might not have gotten the best savate fighters that where out there in the 1890s. The Lumiere brothers were more intereted in movement then they where the martial arts.
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