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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonbrinn View Post
    I would be very interested to see you back up this point. Posting such on a forum is far too easy to do in my opinion.

    How about this, why don't you (since you live relatively close to Ronald Duncan's location) set up a time to go and train with him or at least take a class and video tape it.

    Provided you sign the proper "release forms" I am sure there would not be any objection, although I can not speak for anyone here (I am just assuming based on my encounters with the man).

    And then, you can upload what happens in your "fraud" (as you put it) investigation and we all can see the brilliance or lack in your post.
    Sorry if someone else has said this already but....

    Dude, don't "invite" someone on the Internet to go fight someone else. What are you, 16yo??? This is the height of cheezy MA behaviour, even IF he does get his ass kicked for his efforts.
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
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    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
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    I don't usually respond to comments be they positive or negative regarding the subject of "real" martial artists. However there has recently been a surge of comments asking for proof of ...association, teachers, arts studied, skill etc. regarding Sensei Duncan and also his first generation students such as Sensei Wigginton, Sensei Ali Karim ( recent You-Tube Video ) and others. I have known Sensei Duncan and Sensei Wigginton for over 30 years. I have trained with and under Sensei Duncan and Sensei Wigginton as well as alongside Sensei Ali Karim throughout the years. I was there when Master Ernie Cates honored Prof. Duncan on his 50 years as a TEACHER. Skill...teachers...proof? I was taught that the only proof needed of the rank you EARNED wasn't a certificate or an obi but what you could do on the mat and in the street. I have studied formal arts as well as self defense under Prof. Duncan, Master Wigginton and others who I'm sure you would consider "frauds, unskilled" or worse. Be that as it may, those of us who have trained under these MASTERS know what THEY are capable of and what WE are capable of. Anyone can claim anything, few can back it up. Can you? I know I can ! I'm 58yrs. old so I don't "play" unless it's for keeps. It's easy to hide behind a keyboard. Lucky for you isn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chichi View Post
    I was taught that the only proof needed of the rank you EARNED wasn't a certificate or an obi but what you could do on the mat and in the street.
    You will find that to be the prevailing opinion here.

    I have studied formal arts as well as self defense under Prof. Duncan, Master Wigginton and others who I'm sure you would consider "frauds, unskilled" or worse. Be that as it may, those of us who have trained under these MASTERS know what THEY are capable of and what WE are capable of. Anyone can claim anything, few can back it up. Can you? I know I can !
    Wow! So this is all about to be resolved through a friendly throwdown?

    I'm 58yrs. old so I don't "play" unless it's for keeps.
    Or maybe not.

    It's easy to hide behind a keyboard.
    Yes, it is isn't it?

    Look, if you have some way of testing the claims that you have made, then by all means arrange something with the members of this forum (no, not a "deathmatch") or post some footage (compliant demos do not count) that supports your position. Until then you are the one hiding behind a keyboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chichi View Post
    I was taught that the only proof needed of the rank you EARNED wasn't a certificate or an obi but what you could do on the mat and in the street.
    So since he has skills we should believe everything he's claimed, without any evidence, even though those claims are far fetched and unrealistic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chichi View Post
    I don't usually respond to comments be they positive or negative regarding the subject of "real" martial artists. However there has recently been a surge of comments asking for proof of ...association, teachers, arts studied, skill etc. regarding Sensei Duncan and also his first generation students such as Sensei Wigginton, Sensei Ali Karim ( recent You-Tube Video ) and others. I have known Sensei Duncan and Sensei Wigginton for over 30 years. I have trained with and under Sensei Duncan and Sensei Wigginton as well as alongside Sensei Ali Karim throughout the years. I was there when Master Ernie Cates honored Prof. Duncan on his 50 years as a TEACHER. Skill...teachers...proof? I was taught that the only proof needed of the rank you EARNED wasn't a certificate or an obi but what you could do on the mat and in the street. I have studied formal arts as well as self defense under Prof. Duncan, Master Wigginton and others who I'm sure you would consider "frauds, unskilled" or worse. Be that as it may, those of us who have trained under these MASTERS know what THEY are capable of and what WE are capable of. Anyone can claim anything, few can back it up. Can you? I know I can ! I'm 58yrs. old so I don't "play" unless it's for keeps. It's easy to hide behind a keyboard. Lucky for you isn't it.
    Lucky for me? Uhm, I guess we will have to find out. Where do you live? Is it somewhere by Louisville Kentucky? I am only a BJJ blue belt with a lil' bit of boxing, mma, and a bit more Muay Thai yet I will give you run.

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    Anyone can claim anything, few can back it up. Can you? I know I can ! I'm 58yrs. old so I don't "play" unless it's for keeps. It's easy to hide behind a keyboard. Lucky for you isn't it.
    Your new here eh? Most people here have zero problems backing there claims, haha. I have a feeling most even enjoy it.

    Lucky for me? Uhm, I guess we will have to find out. Where do you live? Is it somewhere by Louisville Kentucky? I am only a BJJ blue belt with a lil' bit of boxing, mma, and a bit more Muay Thai yet I will give you run.
    Beating up a 58 year old? Well, be sure to take video. Should prove entertaining.

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    RIP O Sensi Ronald Duncan
    Its painful to read this trash and despite its age I will open this back up , I grew up in a Jujutsu Family my father trained with Kiyose Nakae Sensei in new York at a very young age I can't remember exact dates and later when stationed in Hawaii in Dan Zan Ryu with Okazaki Sensi and many others we grew up on base and started training at a very young age I was the youngest of 3 Brothers at that time we could attend any training on base and with 6 Children in our Family on a military income we Spent a lot of time taking advantage of the many courses offered at the base Gym Judo , jujutsu , Kenpo etc

    My older brothers had been training mainly in jujutsu than Taught by a close friend and student of my Dad as my father was stationed in Panama and other locations was unable to run his dojo while I have to say back in those days little emphasis was placed on the "Ryu" it was not really talked about no one questioned if my Father or Paul who taught the majority of Classes were Frauds or who granted the belt colour they wore in fact Paul taught with a brown belt for years I remember it being a big day for him to be awarded shodan .
    The truth of the matter I suspect there were more instructors in north America with Close ties to Japan than today after WW2 many veterans came home with Skills and training there was even Jujutsu (Yawara) bing taught to guards at a western Canadian Japanese internment camp .
    I wander if any type of records were Kept of the transmissions form that period , I was much more keen about Budo in general than my Brothers and in the eighties I had read about Ninjutsu and I wanted to learn all I could , I researched and so did my father and the most credible authority we could find about Ninjutsu was professor Ronald Duncan , each summer i would go visit Family in New york and i had my first meeting at the Queen's Village Pistol and Rifle Club up stairs in a Small but Cozy Dojo , my Uncle made some arrangements and I started learning Ninjutsu via private lessons and attended some Group Classes , O sensei told me how he had been on the wide world of Sports a TV SHOW back than I can't recall the dates one of the Japanese Maters who was on the show with him and O sensei (R DUNCAN) became Close and that is who taught him Shinobi no jutsu .
    I was young I can't recall the name I told him I was initially disappointed I had expected to Learn some new magical Taijutsu Skills he laughed and said Charles my boy "there is nothing new under the sun" But I can teach you the art of shinobi no jutsu that is a philosophy a way of thinking a way of approaching combat that is what makes you a Ninja winning seeing a weapon and adapting being aware of your surroundings and blending into them , one of his philosophy's about Ninjustsu was "don't blink your eyes you might die in the dark "
    I last Spoke to O sensi about 18 Months before he died and he always had the time and respect for me and I loved him as I student can love a teacher of Martial arts in the highest regard , I trained only about 80-100 hours with the man but he impacted me more than others I spent decades learning from he was with no question Shinobi !
    I later trained in Bujinkan Ninjustsu with Hatsumi and Shoto Tanamura and others but after the impact that O Sensi made to my way of thinking and approaching combat those mass marketed Ryu-ha seemed like Bulshido !

    O Sensi Ronald Duncan Grand father of American Ninjustsu

    PS Richard Wiggington sorry I was a idiot kid

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