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    does anybody go through what i go through?

    ive been wanting to do jiu jitsu for a long time now, but i cant afford it
    ive been doin judo but being thrown all the time has kind of injured me so i want to switch to bjj.
    i work but its not enough to pay for classes cuz i have bills and college and i don't have a bank account
    there are 3 places in my area, west coast jj, paragon bjj, and gracie barra ventura and since i dont have a bank account i have to pay in cash upfront
    west coast fees are 65 for registration and 150 month to month or 100 for a year contract.
    paragon charges 1500 upfront for a year with gi, i dont know if they have a registration fee or not
    i went to gracie barra and they offered me a contract for 6 months for 1100 for gi, registration and classes upfront.

    is there any advice i can get on what school i should go to?
    i only spend about 500 cuz thats most of my entire savings

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    Get a bank account, put the money in it and then pay monthly charges.

    If you pay for a year up front and then get injured/move away etc, you've spunked over a grand
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    Find a month to month gym. Mine is taught by a black belt, small classes, lots of personal attention. $55 a month for 1 day a week, $85 for 2, $110 for 3.

    By "day", instead of "class", you can show up and do the MMA and BJJ classes back to back without paying extra. It's pretty nice. My gi is cheap, cost $50, and has held up perfectly for a year and a half with no sign of wear other than the dirty lapels that won't turn back to bright white no matter how many times its washed.

    All told, with supplements, gym fees, extra gear, etc, etc, I spend about $1500 a year. I just don't pay it all at once, which makes it perfectly managable.

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    WOW 85 bux for two days a week
    yea i am thinking about doin the bank account thing but i don't make a lot of money so im kind of afraid that if i lose my job or run out of money in the bank there will be massive consequences
    i want to pay month to month but in cash, i dont really trust banks
    who is omega?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geffcardo
    WOW 85 bux for two days a week
    yea i am thinking about doin the bank account thing but i don't make a lot of money so im kind of afraid that if i lose my job or run out of money in the bank there will be massive consequences
    i want to pay month to month but in cash, i dont really trust banks
    who is omega?
    I've known most people who don't trust banks, but the reason they don't is because they don't understand how a checking account works. There are lots of places that let you open a bank account for $50 and don't charge monthly maintenance fees. Just make sure you keep tabs of your balance and don't overdraw your account; that's when banks can get a lot of money off you.

    Oh yea, contact Omega

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    Quote Originally Posted by geffcardo
    ive been wanting to do jiu jitsu for a long time now, but i cant afford it.
    So if you can't afford it, why looking for it? Instead focus on managing/improving your finances and perhaps reconsider your priorities. Trying to take on a hobby that is beyond your means is not a good thing to do, not unless you are willing to make some tremendous sacrifices.

    Quote Originally Posted by geffcardo
    ive been doin judo but being thrown all the time has kind of injured me so i want to switch to bjj.
    Do you have medical insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by geffcardo
    i work but its not enough to pay for classes cuz i have bills and college
    Instead of trying to add yet another expense (bjj), focus on being solvent with your bills and finish college AND THEN do bjj (or whatever expensive hobby you'd like to pursue). Or drop college... or default on your bills. You can't get yet another expense when your finances are stretched, have no bank account, have bills and go to college to top it off.

    Quote Originally Posted by geffcardo
    and i don't have a bank account
    Get one. There is no sane excuse to not have one. It's the adult thing to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by geffcardo
    there are 3 places in my area, west coast jj, paragon bjj, and gracie barra ventura and since i dont have a bank account i have to pay in cash upfront
    west coast fees are 65 for registration and 150 month to month or 100 for a year contract.
    paragon charges 1500 upfront for a year with gi, i dont know if they have a registration fee or not
    i went to gracie barra and they offered me a contract for 6 months for 1100 for gi, registration and classes upfront.

    is there any advice i can get on what school i should go to?
    i only spend about 500 cuz thats most of my entire savings
    Do you have medical insurance? If you get injured and cannot work, what will you do? What will happen to your little savings? Your bills? Your school?

    Maybe I'm understanding your situation the wrong way, but I think you are trying to do too many things at once. Again, get your priorities straight, become financially solvent, finish school and then engage in bjj.

    BJJ is not cheap, it's somewhat expensive. That means that for most, it requires them to have a certain financial level or be willing to make extreme sacrifices.

    Quote Originally Posted by geffcardo
    WOW 85 bux for two days a week
    What do you mean by that? Very affordable? Very expensive? I think it's very affordable.

    Quote Originally Posted by geffcardo
    yea i am thinking about doin the bank account thing but i don't make a lot of money so im kind of afraid that if i lose my job or run out of money in the bank there will be massive consequences
    i want to pay month to month but in cash
    I'm sure you can talk to a school and see if you can get some sort of arrangement. I've know young guys who train at a discount in exchange of services such as cleaning the mats, do paperwork for the school and such. This is a great way of getting training for those who cannot fully afford it.

    However, it also requires some sort of commitment from you. And I think, based on the information I can gather from your post (and I could be 100% wrong about you) is that you are trying to live well beyond your means. Too many responsibilities (bills, college), you have another job already (which is your responsibility to fullfill for as long as you get paid for it), you are barely scrapping some savings and I doubt you have a budget.

    I hope I'm wrong. Good luck regardless.

    Quote Originally Posted by geffcardo
    i dont really trust banks
    Sorry dude, this is retarded. Unless you have more than 100K saved in one single bank (with the way the economy is going), there is nothing wrong with having a bank account. In fact, it is the responsible, mature thing to do. It forces you to have a budget, and to live by it. Having a bank account, and using it correctly is the starting point for living responsibly within one's financial means.

    You are depriving yourself of a fundamental, necessary tool to live in today's world.

    Quote Originally Posted by geffcardo
    who is omega?
    A professional fighter and instructor that owns his own school. I strongly recommend you hear his advice.
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    While hanging out in the Physical Training forum, I've heard from quite a few guys who come in with various injuries, some of which could potentially be very serious. The automatic answer is "see a doctor", and the usual reply is "I don't have medical insurance".

    I don't want to tell you not to train, because training is awesome, but make sure it's not the end of the world if you do get hurt. Do you have insurance through your college?

    Edit: TEM beat me to it.

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