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  1. dinnerpig is offline
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     Style: Heal-Jitsu..yet again :-(

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    i'm still having problems with my squat, as well. Maybe I am not going deep enough..but i dont really feel the squats firing up my hamstrings. deffo feel like i am bending forward as I try to go a little below parallel. what else? i can't seem to keep my balance when coming up from a squat. i sometimes feel like i am engaging my right leg far more than my left. also...sometimes my elbows start to hurt. i think i need to invest in a trainer (there is one who power lifts regularly at my gym) to just drill me on form..but i'm feeling too cheap at the moment.
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    If you don't feel the squats affecting your hamstrings, there's the possibility that your hamstrings aren't the weak link in your squat. When performing a compound lift, the weakest muscles are going to be the one that fatigue first.

    But yeah, with all those issues, you might wanna get a trainer.
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    Try doing shoulder dislocations with a broom handle. I had pain in my elbows, and that worked really well.
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     Style: Heal-Jitsu..yet again :-(

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    thanks for the advice, honesty and Emevas! I'm going to have to grab one of the more competent trainers at the gym and have him watch me while I squat and DL. I'm also going to significantly lower the weights on those two and focus on keeping my dang left knee stable. the bad form is starting to mess up my left knee. there has been a bit of "ouchness" lately. i noticed more so last night while rolling. back to the ice and ibuprofen for lefty. jeese!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas
    If you don't feel the squats affecting your hamstrings, there's the possibility that your hamstrings aren't the weak link in your squat. When performing a compound lift, the weakest muscles are going to be the one that fatigue first.

    But yeah, with all those issues, you might wanna get a trainer.
    Thanks for pointing that out for me. In my ignorance, I was under the impression that my hammies are underdeveloped and weak. my quads deffo fatigue first. in fact - that is where i feel the lift the most. thanks for clearing that up for me.
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    In my experience, the further your knees travel forward while descending in the squat, the more you're using your quads in the exercise (rather than your posterior chain).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRuss
    In my experience, the further your knees travel forward while descending in the squat, the more you're using your quads in the exercise (rather than your posterior chain).
    Hmm but if the knees travel father forward and you are activating the Hips/Glutes and driving back at the same time it would increase the stretch in the hamstrings/hip flexors etc therefore you'd get greater hip drive and more work would be done with the posterior chain than the quads?
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    Dunno about all that, but from personal experience, the more my knees went forward, the more the f**king hurt! :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRuss
    In my experience, the further your knees travel forward while descending in the squat, the more you're using your quads in the exercise (rather than your posterior chain).
    I really can't see that - besides you are supposed to keep your knees directly over your ankles.

    I squat on a box to work my form - at my coach's behest.
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    Ok, I did a workout last night. I made sure to squat stretch beforehand and noticed some improvement.

    I'm lifting in flat soled Vans.

    I was still falling forward at the bottom of my lifts. I will try and work on sitting back as was suggested above and not let my knees go as far forward.

    I was unable to get video but will try and remember this Sunday.
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