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    I bought a sirius A3, wash and dryed, the length of everything is fine, but i believe that the shoulders are for people with bigger shoulders/arms and just non slim guys in general, but i dont know about going down a size..

    pants are fine though, they seem proportional in length with the jacket, so mismatching might help a lot.

    the fact that its not slim fit is my only qualm but its ok i guess
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    I figured I needed to write a review of the BreakpointFC gis since they're becoming popular, but there aren't any comprehensive reviews on them online. If you want more information on me or to read a short blog commenting on the other gis I've owned and gis in general, see my blog at:
    www.anderslamjiujitsu.blogspot.com

    I bought my first Breakpoint gi in April 2009. It was a White BreakpointFC Deluxe A2. It replaced a worn and aging Vulkan A3 top (that I soon realized had always been way too big for me) that I wore with HCK pants (that were made of heavy denim and were kind of baggy). I'm 5'11 and 185lbs and the Breakpoint A2 fits me really, really well - I soon realized I liked my gis well fitted, kind of tight. No extra fabric to encumber my game.

    Some of the basic features of the BreakpointFC Deluxe gi:
    -Single weave top.
    -Two pairs of pants: one made of canvas, one of single weave gi material.
    -Single piece of fabric construction top (no seams in the back or separate pieces of fabric in the front).
    -Extra fabric reinforcement in the armpits, skirt splits and the back of the neck.
    -Taped seams around the outside of the skirt and inside of the cuffs.
    -Embroidered BP on the right breast, between the shoulders on the back and on the bottom of the right pant leg.
    -Sewn on patches on the shoulders, left lapel, back of the skirt, and left hip.


    It took me a few days to get used to wearing a gi that actually fit well, but now I'm totally convinced that everyone wears gis that are too big for them. The Breakpoint gi was nice and fitted in the chest and shoulders and came in nicely at the neck. The sleeves come exactly to my wrists when I hold my hands out in front of me (so its ibjjf legal) and the skirt is short, but comes down exactly to my hip bone (ibjjf legal). Compared to how most people wear their gis, this one is relatively tight on me but I like it that way. I'm exactly at the top of their A2 and bottom of their A3 on their sizing chart (5'11, 185lbs). I choose tighter over looser for my gis.

    There's a pattern screen printed on the inside of the gi. It seems to be inked into the fabric. You can't feel any difference in the fabric, but it looks cool when your gi opens up and you've got a design on the inside.

    The Deluxe gi came with two pairs of pants (one made of canvas, one made of gi material) and I've always worn the lightweight canvas ones. I've had a lot of other gi's pants rip and I guess Breakpoint wanted to address that problem by giving you two pairs of pants, but I'm yet to have their regular canvas pants rip. The regular pants are pretty sturdy. They don't have that bagginess in the ass and the crotch that I've had with most other pairs of BJJ pants and they still leave me with excellent mobility with my guard.

    I wore the crap out of this gi - it's a single weave and fairly light and even though I wore it to practice 5-6 days a week for 10 months I got no rips in the jacket.

    I'm wearing my first BreakpointFC in this picture I took with Ryan Hall:



    That was when I'd been wearing the gi daily for about 9 months. I washed it in cold water with Woolite and Oxyclean after every use and tumble dried it on medium heat. It showed normal signs of wear from the extensive use, washing and drying I put it through but the only complaint about the gi I had was that the patch on the front had come undone.

    In March 2010, I got a new BreakpointFC White Deluxe A2 for my birthday. I'd become so familiar with my old gi that I immediately recognized the design changes. The newer BreakpointFC Deluxe gis have double stitching around all the patches so they won't come undone like they did on my older version. The newer Breakpoints have a thicker and wider collar than the old version.

    My new White BreakpointFC Deluxe is my current primary gi. I really like it and I definitely recommend it to anyone who wants a really well-cut, well-constructed BJJ gi.


    PS. I also owned a BreakpointFC White Lightweight gi for most of the period that I had the Deluxe gi, but I saved it for competitions. The Lightweight gi is exactly the same material and cut as the Deluxe gi. However, the Lightweight gi doesn't have the inside printing, extra patches or the heavyweight pants.
    I really like all the patches and stylized seam tape on the Deluxe gis, but if you don't want to be as flashy but want to have the same quality, go with the Lightweight gi.
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    guys (& gals), I've seen some BJJ gis that are white but not bleached, they look natural off-white & I really like the look (plus the durability issue of the bleaching process is avoided).
    What companies provide a good natural gi that you'd recommend? Thanks.
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude View Post
    guys (& gals), I've seen some BJJ gis that are white but not bleached, they look natural off-white & I really like the look (plus the durability issue of the bleaching process is avoided).
    What companies provide a good natural gi that you'd recommend? Thanks.
    Howard Combat Kimonos makes a good quality, very inexpensive, unbleached BJJ gi. http://www.howardliu.com/catalog/bjj/single.htm

    $60 for that one.

    Also, I posted a quick review on my blog of the new Gameness Feather. The gi I took pictures in is a white one I dyed blue.

    Salient points are this: It will shrink if you want it to (and as with most of them, probably if you don't want it to). The sleeves shrunk up a couple of inches and the pants were long, too, but also shrunk up in the wash. I'm hoping for a little more shrinkage, honestly, as it's on the edge of being too long. I was giving up easy grips all over the place as class yesterday.

    The construction is about what you'd expect from this new generation of lightweight gis. Ripstop pants. Comfortable top. A good value vs the competitors like the Vulkan PRO Light and the Bad Boy Pro Series lightweight, but is significantly less expensive than either of the other two.

    I have a Vulkan that I ordered from Budovideos on Saturday, so I'll put together a comparison of the two when I get it.
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    Does Atama make an unbleached gi? Someone told me that they did, but I can't seem to find them...
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

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    My first gi was unbleached. Note that it will eventually turn white just through normal washing, so don't go out of your way to get one purely for aesthetic reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lu Tze View Post
    My first gi was unbleached. Note that it will eventually turn white just through normal washing, so don't go out of your way to get one purely for aesthetic reasons.
    Yeah, but it's not gonna be that snow white that draws dirt like a magnet...
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

    "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude View Post
    Does Atama make an unbleached gi? Someone told me that they did, but I can't seem to find them...
    They seem to have been taken off the regular listing and clearanced. Below is the link:

    http://www.atama-kimonos.com/product...unbleached.htm

    I have a couple of atama gis (bleached and unbleached) and bought an atama for my kids. The unbleached eventually "whitened". Except when my wife washed it with her red clothes. It seemed a little rougher than the bleached, but after a year or so it got softer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadUglyMagic View Post
    They seem to have been taken off the regular listing and clearanced. Below is the link:

    http://www.atama-kimonos.com/product...unbleached.htm

    I have a couple of atama gis (bleached and unbleached) and bought an atama for my kids. The unbleached eventually "whitened". Except when my wife washed it with her red clothes. It seemed a little rougher than the bleached, but after a year or so it got softer.
    Huh. Well, that sucks. I'm wearing an A4/A5 so I guess I'm outta luck for the Atama. Wish they still made them. Oh well, on to something else.
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

    "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
    ~ Brigadier General Gordon Toney
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude View Post
    Yeah, but it's not gonna be that snow white that draws dirt like a magnet...
    You training on the pavement or something, keeping it real?

    Anyway, I tend to avoid the guy with the yellow gi... I don't care if he says it's unbleached.

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