Rolling with a known druggie....

**Asriel** · Posted On: 9/07/2008 1:04pm

If you believe there is even the slightest change that the guy has caught some kind of infection from using needles then you should tell the school owner.

What would you do if you didn't say anything and he got smashed in the face, bled all over his opponent, the guys who came to help him out and the ring and then you find out he had AIDS.

Do you want that responsibility? I'm not trying to guilt trip you but that is exactly how I would see it in that position.

Forget the drugs for a second, would you tell anyone if you KNEW 100% that the guy had a blood borne disease and could be infecting people? I know I would.

***JohnnyCache*** · Posted On: 9/07/2008 2:00pm

You want to say something and you're looking for "permission"

You should know as a cop - there's no permission to be granted for hard choices. In a perfect world, him being on heroin would be nobody else's business, but he's in regular bodily fluid contact with a bunch of people who need to know he's probably got hepatitis. No one should get hep C over the abstract principle of "some guy's privacy"

I think you should tell them even if it costs you training there, to tell you the truth.

**Who?** · Posted On: 9/07/2008 2:26pm

If you know he's a smackhead and he's still there can't you just fucking shoot him? You being a LEO. It would benefit society in the long run.

**MarkyMark** · Posted On: 9/07/2008 2:58pm

He doesn't sound like the average junkie...training??? I would have concerns about HIV and Hepatitis etc. I think the best way forward is to have a private word in his ear after training one day.-You never know if he says "all that **** is behind me and here is my paperwork to say I'm clean and sober and I'd just like to train please.." then imo nobody needs to know but you and him.

If the guy is getting his **** together it's a rare thing-Don't spoil it for him if that is the case.

**Who?** · Posted On: 9/07/2008 3:02pm

Originally Posted by MarkyMark

He doesn't sound like the average junkie...training??? I would have concerns about HIV and Hepatitis etc. I think the best way forward is to have a private word in his ear after training one day.-You never know if he says "all that **** is behind me and here is my paperwork to say I'm clean and sober and I'd just like to train please.." then imo nobody needs to know but you and him.

If the guy is getting his **** together it's a rare thing-Don't spoil it for him if that is the case.

I'd agree with that. Everyone deserves a second chance (still watch your wallet though)

***JohnnyCache*** · Posted On: 9/07/2008 3:06pm

Originally Posted by MarkyMark

He doesn't sound like the average junkie...training??? I would have concerns about HIV and Hepatitis etc. I think the best way forward is to have a private word in his ear after training one day.-You never know if he says "all that **** is behind me and here is my paperwork to say I'm clean and sober and I'd just like to train please.." then imo nobody needs to know but you and him.

If the guy is getting his **** together it's a rare thing-Don't spoil it for him if that is the case.

This is true, actually, the guy might be off the stuff and clean.

**Frank White** · Posted On: 9/07/2008 3:07pm

MarkyMark is right, talk to him first.

I wouldn't be concerned about HIV unless you planned on having sex with him, but if he has hep c, he needs to be training properly, and anyone who spars with him has to be aware.

**Nubster** · Posted On: 9/07/2008 4:04pm

Well, the thing is, this was kinda a question that just popped in to my head but the scenario is true. I arrested the guy last year in the fall. I don't know if he is still training or not or even where he was training. I do know the town he was training in and there is only a few places in that town to train so it would not be hard to find out. I also do know that the guy is still using. I do not know if he is infected with anything but like I said, in my experience I could safely say at least 90% of the junkies I know of are infected with something. So my issue would be if I start training at this particular place and then I either see him or observe his name on a roster or something.

***JohnnyCache*** · Posted On: 9/07/2008 4:16pm

The only problem is if you talk to him about it, he'll say the same ****, clean or not.

There's a only a few things I KNOW to be true but one of them is "junkies lie"

**MarkyMark** · Posted On: 9/07/2008 4:20pm

Yep but if it's anything like over here he may be on a DTTO (Drug treatment and testing order) which are linked to bail etc. This can give recovering junkies documentary proof that they tested clean for controlled substances and it's not unusual for an IV user on detox to have an HIV/Hep test.

I am not suggesting you believe his word alone but if I were you I'd be saying "Ok show me".