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  1. 1point2 is online now
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    If someone has a question that nobody here can reasonably answer (both because most of us don't have the necessary expertise and because we can't conduct our own examinations), it's dishonest and counterproductive for us to pretend that we can.

    Bad information is worse than no information.

    So where does that leave us? Sure, there are crappy doctors out there that will blow off his symptoms as not being severe. But he needs to at least try consulting a doctor, and if the answers are unsatisfactory, then maybe some of us can help him.
    I agree that he should see a doctor. I think that any idiot in the forum who tells them to do X, Y, Z and stay away from a doctor should be shunned like the plague.

    It just annoys me when we omit all other advice in favor of just telling them to see a doctor. I've been helped explaining things to my doctor by telling anecdotes about what it could be, based on advice from this forum.

    Based on the OP's reluctance to see a doc, however, I am moving to your camp. See a doctor.
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    I'll go see a doctor when I can. I just began professional school and I still need to get the hang of this academic training before I can spare the time. The validity of proper medical professionals to check me out wasn't in dispute, though it may sounded like I had that opinion. Like mentioned before I just didn't want to waste a trip to the doctor when time is not something I have in abundance.

    The crush came right below my adams apple. Perhaps its an inflammation. My normal speaking voice hasn't changed, and today I can shout.

    99% of the discomfort and pain is gone. I just happen to notice the decrease in my vocal range of pitch because of my musical hobbies I've become very sensitive to things like that; most people will call it a 100% recovery.

    Thanks for the advice. And all the "go see a doctor" haters should go home and watch TV. Kidding! If anything, its going to motivate me to spare time to go see a doc as soon as possible.
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    Most of the time, someone with a sports injury is best served by consulting with a sports specialist (doctor or physiotherapist) - they're likely to be more acquainted with sports injuries, and less judgmental about participation in risky sports.

    In your case, however, you might want to seek out a doctor with experience being/treating vocalists. Singers do all sorts of strange things to their voiceboxes. Maybe ask some of your musically-inclined friends for recommendations?
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    not medical adivce

    As a newbie, this happened to me and it is funny that every mma forum where someone asks about the raspy throat, chokehold thing devolves into a flame war between, "what, go to a doctor, what are you asking us for?" versus "damn, dude, I just want to see if anyone had this happen to them, I am just commiserating, not seeking medical advice."

    My first mma class, I got guillotined, tapped when it hurt (but no pop) and I am going through the sore throat, raspy voice thing. Hopefully, it's just an internal bruise that some people experience. But I tell you what, this experience really taught me a lesson, this is big boy stuff and, duh, protect the throat area and tap out before the sparring partner gets too excited with the choke.

    And yes, if it is painfully obvious, I will go see a ENT.

    But glad to hear that dwk seems to have recovered.
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    You would hope so, since this thread is 3 years old.
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    Holy ****! Thread necro. I still don't have my singing voice back btw, but who cares, gave that up a long time ago. lol!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwkfym View Post
    I thought I'd double necro this thread. I never went to see a doctor. I'm sure what happened was that part of the muscles in my throat that I trained had actually become damaged. After years, I have my voice and range all back. Not that it matters, but now I can go to Karaoke bars and pick up chicks.
    My wife is a licensed speech pathologist. I'll show her your post and see if she's got any ideas.

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    I thought I'd double necro this thread. I never went to see a doctor. I'm sure what happened was that part of the muscles in my throat that I trained had actually become damaged. After years, I have my voice and range all back. Not that it matters, but now I can go to Karaoke bars and pick up chicks.
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    Although it doesn't sound as serious and I never heard a crunch, my sensei decided to use me to demonstrate every type of choke that he knows. Not wanting to deprive the class of the full technique (stupidly), I was aware of not tapping too early. Flash forward a day, and I found it hard to speak normally, drink and eat. It took two weeks and I was back to normal. Hope that helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwkfym View Post
    I thought I'd double necro this thread. I never went to see a doctor. I'm sure what happened was that part of the muscles in my throat that I trained had actually become damaged. After years, I have my voice and range all back. Not that it matters, but now I can go to Karaoke bars and pick up chicks.
    I did speak to my wife about this a few weeks back. I described your injury and she agreed and said inflammation of a whole range of tissue in that area can cause vocal distortion, from the esophagus to the larynx to the vocal folds.

    Specifically the the vocal folds/"cords", which are these delicate little flaps of tissue and are apparently one of the biggest determining factors of the pitch and tone of someone's voice. They can easily be distorted by damage or inflammation and my wife confirmed a choke could do it.

    If it had continued or recurs you can have a speech therapist look at it.

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