Has anyone seen this guard pass?

**FictionPimp** · Posted On: 9/04/2008 3:17pm

I have a lot of success with this pass. I use it as a second effort pass. Usually I'm going for a 'log splitter' type pass and the guy defends by raising his hips, if I can can't keep his hips under control I switch to a wrist and feed it to my other hand, then I stand up and pass.

**gandp1120** · Posted On: 9/04/2008 3:42pm

Originally Posted by Munacra

Tharuz is a complete idiot, and will most certainly try that.

I like to try and give everyone the benifit of the dout, but I have been wrong before.

**Yrkoon9** · Posted On: 9/04/2008 7:53pm

I use it on physically weaker people than myself.

Quite honestly it is difficult to get on someone bigger and stronger. For the initial set up you have to go 1 on 1 against the arm strength of the other person as you feed it to your other hand. Big guys just rip right out of there once they feel how shitty the position is about to get.

**gandp1120** · Posted On: 9/04/2008 8:50pm

I would agree with that except there is a wrestler who fights at 170. He has this retarded grip strength and once he get a hod of your wrist, lets just say its a fight.

**Skillful** · Posted On: 9/04/2008 10:06pm

Reverse hammerlock is like the kimura without the kimura grip. Picture a guy in your open guard holding his left arm behind his back like a kimura. If you reach over and grab the wrist with your left hand, you are kind of there. It's in Royler's no-gi book.

**GoldenJonas** · Posted On: 9/04/2008 10:23pm

Originally Posted by tharuz

hey guys, Im sorry to make a new thread but I wanted to turn to the nice people of bullshido in regards to a guard pass I have seen marcelo garcia perform on youtube.

I can't seem to find it again to look for greater detail, and I was wondering whether it is a successful guard pass or merely crapple.

How dare you sir!!!!!!! The grappling gods will hunt you down and repeatedly face ride you until you apologize for using "Marcelo Garcia" and "crapple" in the same post.

Originally Posted by Yrkoon9

I use it on physically weaker people than myself.

Quite honestly it is difficult to get on someone bigger and stronger. For the initial set up you have to go 1 on 1 against the arm strength of the other person as you feed it to your other hand. Big guys just rip right out of there once they feel how shitty the position is about to get.

The all knowing Koon is 100% correct. We call it the "Chicken Wing Pass". I also have only had success using against guys who I am stronger than in no-gi. I have had more success using the gi modification using the lapel wrap to pin the arm. However the gi pass is more of a arm pin and trap as opposed to a hammer lock or chicken wing.

**PointyShinyBurn** · Posted On: 9/05/2008 12:11pm

Originally Posted by Skillful

Reverse hammerlock is like the kimura without the kimura grip. Picture a guy in your open guard holding his left arm behind his back like a kimura. If you reach over and grab the wrist with your left hand, you are kind of there. It's in Royler's no-gi book.

This kind of thing without the funky setup?
YouTube - Shayna Baszler vs. Roxanne Modafferi

**gandp1120** · Posted On: 9/05/2008 1:22pm

yep thats it.

**Gabetuno** · Posted On: 9/05/2008 2:31pm

I don't get it. If I'm weaker in a 1/1 situation, wouldn't I be able to resist maybe just long enough to omo my opponent to the ends of the Earth when he tried that? I get why Jesu... I mean Marcelo would be able to do it, but it seems like one of those cool moves that most people never find any call for, or if they do, get figured out quickly and end up getting stopped at every attempt.

**Skillful** · Posted On: 9/05/2008 3:57pm

Gabe,

I would say yeah, basically It's something to tuck away into your "all my conventional **** is getting blocked, what weird stuff can I catch this guy off-guard with?" file.