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  1. white_flame is offline

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    Intercoastal neuralgia

    Has anyone had intercoastal nerve damage from doing crunches?
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    Please don't throw open ended yes/no questions by themselves just like that. Explain your motivation for asking that type of question. Nothing personal, but that's how we expect posters to participate in the PT forums.

    What exactly motivates you to ask that question? Have you or someone you know experienced that type of injury? Do you suspect you have or are currently suffering intercostal (not intercoastal) neuralgia? Could you please fill in the details?

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    Yeah, I'm pretty sure that I have intercostal neuralgia. I haven't been to a doctor though, but I browsed huge amounts of information on the internet and I'm pretty sure about my diagnosis.. Let's not discuss this any further! Basically the reason I started this thread is already stated in the first post.. I just want to know if someone has had intercostal nerve damage from doing crunches. Because I suspect that this might be the cause in my case. I did crunches the day before the pain started and everywhere I look excessive use of abdominal muscles is mentioned as one of the main causes for this kind of "injury"..
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    Go to a doctor.
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    Seconded.
    You don't know if your injury is neuralgia or a tear or a strain or whatever.

    I tore an intercostal last year, and I have previously had nerve damage in the ribs from repetitive strain caused by bowling (cricket)... the pain's quite similar.
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    I searched and searched, and I could not find anything that could suggest ab crunches could cause it.

    However, intercostal injuries are very common. Don't know about intercostal neuralgias, but certainly you can pull an intercostal muscle. People with asthma or chronic bronchitis can pull one out with a violent cough. I myself strained one while doing, all the fucking things, with a sprint. It took weeks for the inflamation to go down.

    I'd go with the others' suggestion to go see a doctor. There is no way to know if it's an strained/pulled intercostal muscle, or if it's indeed neuralgia or some other shitty form of nerve impigment or damage.

    Are you taking over-the-counter NSAIDs (ibuprofens)? Have you tried stretching the abdominal and chest wall area?
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    I like how the internet has made people think that they are an appropriate substitute for a trained medical professional.
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    Anecdotes of personal related experiences, in addition to the recommendation to consult with a trained medical professional, provide meaningful and useful ancillary care in many forms, including (but not limited to) emotional support, informational context of the medical data, socializing, framing the situation, and offering alternative explanations as a way to prepare the individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sochin101
    I tore an intercostal last year, and I have previously had nerve damage in the ribs from repetitive strain caused by bowling (cricket)... the pain's quite similar.
    Pace or spin?
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    Originally pace, but I switched to offspin after the injury.
    It was the follow-through of the quicker deliveries that caused the most discomfort.
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