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    This is my kind of tournament:

    I just got back from this tournament earlier today.

    http://gokor.com/index.php?option=co...d=159&Itemid=2

    Now this is my kind of tournament.

    The Good:
    The rules- very simple 95% of all submissions are allowed. All throws allowed as long as you don't land them on their head.

    Round 1 3 minutes- no points (promotes actual submission attempts)
    Round 2 2 minutes- points given
    a. 1 point for a throw
    b. 1 point for bettering a position (really easy to understand)
    1. Position hierarchy: Non Dominant, Neutral, Dominant.
    2. You get a point for going from Non Dominant to Neutral or Neutral to Dominant
    Round 3 Sudden death (now this was weird) First person to hit the ground loses.



    Everybody at this tournament was great (except apparently me as a ref yelled at me for not understanding the "First person to hit the ground loses" rule.).

    Met up with Shinbushi from bullshido and even got take a picture with Gene Lebell.

    If you get a chance to do this tournament I highly recommend it.

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    That sounds awesome.

    I wish the Submission grappling comps around here were more like that.

    So Round 3 is like Sumo rules? Do you also lose if you get ring-outed? That's odd. I would have thought they'd put in like an osaekomi rule or something so you secure a dominant position and maintain it for like 30 seconds to win.

    Anyway, sounds like a lot of fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega
    I just got back from this tournament earlier today.

    http://gokor.com/index.php?option=co...d=159&Itemid=2

    Now this is my kind of tournament.

    The Good:
    The rules- very simple 95% of all submissions are allowed. All throws allowed as long as you don't land them on their head.

    Round 1 3 minutes- no points (promotes actual submission attempts)
    Round 2 2 minutes- points given
    a. 1 point for a throw
    b. 1 point for bettering a position (really easy to understand)
    1. Position hierarchy: Non Dominant, Neutral, Dominant.
    2. You get a point for going from Non Dominant to Neutral or Neutral to Dominant
    Round 3 Sudden death (now this was weird) First person to hit the ground loses.



    Everybody at this tournament was great (except apparently me as a ref yelled at me for not understanding the "First person to hit the ground loses" rule.).

    Met up with Shinbushi from bullshido and even got take a picture with Gene Lebell.

    If you get a chance to do this tournament I highly recommend it.
    huh... ?? ... so what is the point of the second round keeping points if it goes to the third round and their is a sudden death?

    ...or is it more if the score is tied at the end of 2 it goes to 3 rounds?

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    If there is no winner in the second round it goes to sudden death. Now here's the kicker; if you trip and fall the match is over. That's it. I think they need to revamp that rule but I can understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega
    If there is no winner in the second round it goes to sudden death. Now here's the kicker; if you trip and fall the match is over. That's it. I think they need to revamp that rule but I can understand it.
    cool. BRUTAL. but cool.

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    It probably keeps things moving and prevents a lot of bitching about the judges in close matches. It's pretty smart actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega
    If there is no winner in the second round it goes to sudden death. Now here's the kicker; if you trip and fall the match is over. That's it. I think they need to revamp that rule but I can understand it.
    What about if you do a sacrifice throw? Do you lose for touching the mat first even though you throw your opponent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuatro76
    What about if you do a sacrifice throw? Do you lose for touching the mat first even though you throw your opponent?
    Another question is what counts as "on the ground." 1 hand/both hands? 1 knee/both knees? Flat on your back?

    Those are some freaking awesome rules though.

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    In the third round? Yes you lose on a sacrifice throw. I'm going to contact them this weak about possibly tweaking that rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega
    In the third round? Yes you lose on a sacrifice throw. I'm going to contact them this weak about possibly tweaking that rule.
    How did we do BTW?

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