Posted On:8/22/2008 10:05am
Style: Moo Sool Do
Mixing styles to become a competent fighter is obviously all the rage and certainly necessary. The question I would like to discuss is how long should one wait before mixing martial arts and weather or not mixing can actually inhibit by confusing a fighter. If someone does a striking martial art then cross trains with grappling then this confusion seems much less likely. However, if one trains in kyokushin then cross trains in mantis kung fu would this just result in a sloppy fighter? Moreover do you think it would be better to have 4 first degree black belts in different things or to obtain a high level of mastery in one thing?
Gold Summit Martial Arts Institute
Posted On:8/22/2008 10:09am
Style: Ba Zheng Dao Quan
What if you practice a style with striking and grappling?
Does the individual have to mix the styles, or can he buy it pre-mixed?
Authentic Kung Fu in Buffalo, NY
Posted On:8/22/2008 10:23am
Style: Judo Sandbagger
Mixing Styles sucks. The Jack of all trades- master of none.
I started as wrestler.
Found Jiu Jitsu
Everyone at BJJ is looking to wrestling to up their game.
I've come full circle, 25 years later, sucking in all styles, when I might have become competent at wrestling, and perhaps got that scholarship and a better life.
Jaws....Thanks for reawakening old wounds.
Posted On:8/22/2008 10:52am
Style: Fish Oil
This is a really good point.
When I was a kid I learned to play kickball and baseball at the same time.
I don't know how many times I got confused and tried to kick the baseball. Boy was my face red!
Here, hold these for me.
Posted On:8/22/2008 11:06am
Style: jkd concepts
Scott Larson = correct.
"The seventh law of thermodynamics is that every time a fat person gets near a trapdoor, they fall in. Itís the closest thing we have to scientific proof of God."
Posted On:8/22/2008 11:17am
Style: Mixed-Up Martial Arts
Why would you want to do Praying Mantis after doing Kyokushin, sure you would be sloppy. But doing grappling arts after doing boxing or Thai boxing makes sense....
Posted On:8/22/2008 11:35am
It seems like if you switch to similar styles frequently,
ex- tae kwon do- tang soo do- shotokan- kyokushin.... your techniques will become somewhat confused or you will never really master any of the techniques. Contrary if you train in two very different like tae kwon do and judo then the techniques would probably remain quite separate. One question I have is how often should one mix and how long should one train in a martial art before taking up another.
Posted On:8/22/2008 11:46am
Actually many of the top fighters get really good in one particular discipline and then move on to thier cross training. Unfortunately in todays nownownow ADHD society people try to learn everything all at once and expect to be good at everything. They simply won't. I have seen it too many times. They take muay thai 2x per week, jiu jitsu 2x per week, and MMA 2x per week. They are training really hard but end up doing a lot of review every week and not a lot of progression.
Think about it like education. Can a person get 5 different bachelors degrees at the same time? Not likely. There are some true geniuses out there that can (and in MMA we see them occassionally) but the overwhelming majority of people just get overwhelmed and confused. They will know a lot of generalized crap but have no depth in any of it. And when a true expert in the field comes along they will get embarrassed because they are a generalist without any real specialization.
There is no doubt that cross training IS THE ANSWER.
And the counters to my argument are many. I accept that having a broad foundation from which to build will allow a person to see and experience things not availible to the specialist is a good thing. A really good thing.
But knowing when make the leap into crosstraining is the key. As they say - timing is everything.
Posted On:8/22/2008 11:54am
Style: BJJ/Pekiti Tersia/Hsing-I
GUYS I TOOK A BOXING CLASS AND WHEN WE WERE GRAPPLING I STARTED PUCNhing. I wAS OCNfUSED!!!!
But seriously, I think the potential is there if you're a complete noob at everything. I've done almost 2 years of grappling every day and I'm just starting to learn striking.
Posted On:8/22/2008 12:18pm
Style: Gym drifter
It's not that hard to cross train in everything full time not that 4 hours a week ****. I did 3 styles at the same time at one point. I'm not a master, but it was deffinetly not a waste of my time. If you're a student it's not hard at all, just need a lot of will power and a load of money./depends on the school/ Sometimes you have to explain bruses to your judo coach and it gets stupid, but if you're crazy enough. Plus there are schools that incorporate a lot of aspects, like sambo for instance.
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