Kimura Grip on top of shoulder

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 8/20/2008 3:24pm

We did a really interesting series last week that revolved around an interesting grip on the shoulder. I was wondering who else has worked on it and if you guys have seen any good examples online?

From closed guard you overhook one arm (lets say their left arm) then place your left hand on top of their left shoulder and grip your left wrist with your right hand so you end up Kimura gripping their bicep. Now while keeping their posture down slide on to your left hip and use your right leg to hold them down.

From here there are a couple things to do including an armbar that immediately presents itself.

Does anyone have any idea what I'm talking about?

**pauli** · Posted On: 8/20/2008 3:35pm

yes, though i don't normally keep two hands dedicated to that grip, and i generally transition to a sweep.

**sapateiro** · Posted On: 8/20/2008 3:38pm

I like to teach a combo from that position... The imaginitively named 'armtrap combo', but use the lapel grip with the hand your using for the overhook. It goes x-collar choke/x-collar choke (from behind head grip)/hip out to armbar/omoplata. Alternatively a nice controlled triangle or flowersweep variation on a successful choke defense. A great position... If it's the one I'm thinking of :-)

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 8/20/2008 3:46pm

Originally Posted by pauli

yes, though i don't normally keep two hands dedicated to that grip, and i generally transition to a sweep.

Which direction do you sweep? We did an armbar->omo plata->triangle->armbar but no sweep.

**MEGALEF** · Posted On: 8/20/2008 4:00pm

No, never tried it but it sounds very much like my type of grip. Will try it out first chance I get.

**pauli** · Posted On: 8/20/2008 4:30pm

i generally sweep towards the trapped arm. if you've got it set right, they can't post.

i'll have to sit down on saturday and look at what i'm doing a bit more, though.

**Deadmeat** · Posted On: 8/20/2008 5:50pm

My instructor actually showed us a reverse okuri-eri-jime (sliding collar choke) starting with that same grip.

You control them with the kimura grip you described. Then, you bring your overhooked hand inwards and grab their opposite lapel (their right lapel in your example) maintaining the overhook all the while. You release the shoulder grip with your other arm, and reach across for their lapel and cinch the choke.

Worked like a charm. I can't seem to find a picture of it though.

JP · Posted On: 8/20/2008 5:58pm

I've also learned that as a sweep set-up and from there taught to go for the kimura. I've also used it as a default lockdown when I can't figure out something better to do and its presented itself.

It looks enough like a submission that they spend their time fighting than which allows me a few minutes to figure out what the hell I should do.

But when you transition to the arm-bar, don't you switch the foot that's controlling him? I'm having a tough time visualizing the arm-bar you're referring to.