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  1. Bolverk is offline

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    12/10/2003 2:22pm


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    China and Taiwan

    How many of you out there believe we should support an independent Taiwan, and what level of commitment do you think we should have?

    How many of you out there believe we should let China and Taiwan hash this out on their own, even if it means an eventual war between them?
    Knowing it is not enough, we must apply.
    Willing is not enough, we must do.

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    12/10/2003 2:26pm

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    I can't say I really even begin to understand the problem.... I wonder though if China is really an ally or just another issue waiting to happen in the future. For those who have been or live in China, what is your perspective. What do they or you feel about individual freedom? What really happened in Tinnaman Square (sp)? I know some of the history on Tiawan and China, but....
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    Taiwan IS independant.
  4. Bolverk is offline

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    China is an interesting topic. They have the potential to become the strongest economic power in the world. But, if and when that happens, how will having all of that wealth effect the populace? Will it push them to strive for more freedom?
    Knowing it is not enough, we must apply.
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  5. Bolverk is offline

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    Originally posted by ronin69
    Taiwan IS independant.
    Yes, it is. But, how long they will maintain that independence depends on how bad China wants them back under their control. So the question becomes, to what level will we support their independence.
    Knowing it is not enough, we must apply.
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    12/10/2003 2:31pm

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    We, the US that is, are under a commitment to support them militarily if they are attacked. Could be wrong, but I think we are....
  7. Bolverk is offline

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    12/10/2003 2:34pm


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    I believe that you are correct, that is our current policy. But policy often has little to do with the beliefs of the American people. And sometimes, policy is even ignored.
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    How willing is the WORLD to go to war because of Taiwan?
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    & Yeah to most of the world Taiwan IS indeed independent, but, for example, to the Olympic Committee they aren't (feel free to check that one, they are called 'Chinese Taipei' there).

    ANNNNDDDD... There are a zillion complicated manners in this, like in everything. There, for example. used to be a taiwanese language... but they can't speak it anymore after the non-communistic chinese moved there ;).... ->
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    12/10/2003 2:38pm

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    Not very I think.... We are really talk about a war with China, and that is truely an ugly proposition. The US has fought them in both Korea and Vietnam, and it was hard fighting. Why is Tiawan pushing the point about Chinese missles now! They know that the US is stretched to the breaking point, and it just forces the administration to react disjointedly....
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